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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
that was very dull and this whole thread seems to be a excuse to preach your version of god.
I'm far happier now I've settled in my own mind that god doesn't exist. I have many friends who were Witnesses who are much happier now they are not banging on doors on a sunday morning trying to hawk the watch tower. Our inner peace seems to suit us just fine.
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: That's projection and incorrect - I know many many good people who have has horrible lifes and many bad bad people who have had a great time. it's totally random. When my grandfather died, he commented on how trouble free his life was (and also that we should chuck the corpse on a skip and spend the money on a party).
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: becomes
quote: And more importantly Atheists find the military a very hostile place so tend to keep it to themselves. Page Not Found - Military Association of Atheists & Freethinkers | Military Association of Atheists & Freethinkers This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 09-Jul-2005 09:33 AM
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
I had sex with two witnesses once? is that the same thing?
they seem to get some measure of peace - or that could have been the booze.
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Deleted - cannot be bothered to carry this one on.
This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 11-Jul-2005 06:28 PM
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: Like the generation who would see the end of the world? How's that one going? still altering the message every so often? Your cult is no different from any of the others.
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Ah the unchanging word of god.
If I needed a blood transfusion in 1956 - could I have one? What about Sept 1958? What about 1961? Of all the christian deathcults, the Witnesses seems both the most deluded and deceiving. If anyone wants to know how JWs like to look after their children, i suggest they read the following transcript (it's quite harrowing in parts). http://news.bbc.co.uk/...transcripts/transcript_14_07_02.txt
quote: Even worse the church keeps a secret database of people it knows or suspects are abusing children.
quote: This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 19-Jul-2005 06:41 PM This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 19-Jul-2005 06:42 PM
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: What about children who are sexually abused and then watch as your cult covers it up (your database of sexual offenders that you decide to keep internal?)? What do they deserve ? Where is the inner peace for them? I asked my friends who had escaped this sick cult about the matter and they both,independently, knew of incidents that the cult tried to cover up (one of which is still being investigated by the police). This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 28-Jul-2005 03:31 AM
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: A cult that breaks up families, systematically works to cover up the sexual abuse of children. If that's inner peace - you can keep it. And frankly when I read your post, it looks like a beachhead tactic to me.
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
You are entirely correct - the more I look into this cult, the more horrific it appears to be. It seems there is a quite well established "survivors" (and there is no other word for it) network by me and I have talked to some of it's members. It's not pleasant stuff.
Those encounters and my further investigations on the net have affected my judgement on related matters. I'll lurk for a bit on this one I think....
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: WRONG - he's made those assumptions and claims, he has failed to prove a single one quote: WRONG - he's made those assumptions and claims, he has failed to prove a single one. He's made some rather insulting claims that JWs are the only ones that stand up for their fellow man - claims that have been rubbished. quote: Well you are the only one - nobody else agrees with that stance. Nice attempt at a beachhead but you've played your cards a bit soon and you need to work on the language a bit - it doesn't quite ring true. This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 04-Aug-2005 04:36 AM This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 04-Aug-2005 04:37 AM
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
No it's because many of the people on here have a strange problem were they pretend they cannot see things that they don't like.
So what is your religious viewpoint? Christian, JW, Atheist?
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Ah... of course... not an attempt at a beachhead at all.
(for those wondering a beachhead works as follows - one member of a cult will make various suggestions, then someone appearing to be netural will appear and say "gosh I'm netural but what you are saying makes an awful lot of sense - could you tell us more/you've proved your case convincely". It works in the same way as the planted member of the audience at a magic show).
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
and to compare - we therefore need a similar situation - when your breathen rounded up in a similar manner, none of them became guards or informers?
By the way, remind me, what did the Watchtower 1934 yearbook says about the jews? ABE: actually even a quick google reveals lots of interesting material about the position and actions of JWs in WW2 - if we head down this road (as "proof" of inner peace, this could get quite interesting.....) This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 04-Aug-2005 07:57 PM
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Before I proceed -
Is it agreed that one of the central "evidences" is how the JWs behaved in Nazi germany (so we are saying 1930s-end of war)? If I can demonstrate that they did, in fact, not behave (as a group*) as claimed then we can dismiss that element of the claim? (BTW - as Watson seems to have failed in his objective, don't be surprised if someone else turns up, only posts on this thread and is equally "gosh you are so right!") This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 05-Aug-2005 04:29 AM
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