Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 59 (9164 total)
3 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,919 Year: 4,176/9,624 Month: 1,047/974 Week: 6/368 Day: 6/11 Hour: 0/1


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Someone who admits he knows nothing about geology, asking where the colum came from?
Coragyps
Member (Idle past 765 days)
Posts: 5553
From: Snyder, Texas, USA
Joined: 11-12-2002


Message 17 of 64 (24694)
11-27-2002 8:59 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by funkmasterfreaky
11-27-2002 7:27 PM


funky: You might enjoy The Map that Changed the World by Simon Winchester - not really about the worldwide geologic column, but about William Smith, the man who but the British part of it together back in 1815. It gives a pretty good reconstruction of what his reasoning was.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 13 by funkmasterfreaky, posted 11-27-2002 7:27 PM funkmasterfreaky has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 21 by funkmasterfreaky, posted 11-28-2002 3:47 AM Coragyps has not replied

  
Coragyps
Member (Idle past 765 days)
Posts: 5553
From: Snyder, Texas, USA
Joined: 11-12-2002


Message 27 of 64 (24790)
11-28-2002 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Randy
11-28-2002 9:47 AM


quote:
layers in the geologic column found in North Dakota and at least 26 places around the world.
And please don't forget that thousand-foot-thick layer of salt in the midst of all those North Dakota rocks. That's sodium chloride, soluble up to 26% in water.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 26 by Randy, posted 11-28-2002 9:47 AM Randy has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 28 by Minnemooseus, posted 11-28-2002 11:21 AM Coragyps has replied

  
Coragyps
Member (Idle past 765 days)
Posts: 5553
From: Snyder, Texas, USA
Joined: 11-12-2002


Message 30 of 64 (24810)
11-28-2002 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Minnemooseus
11-28-2002 11:21 AM


Yeah, there's that much salt, like Randy just posted- probably not in Morton's location. We had to come up with very peculiar cement mixes to be able to cement oil wells up there - regular ol' cement doesn't stick to pure salt very well. I don't remember/never knew the exact geography of where the most salt was, but our company serviced those wells out of Williston.
There's salt like that in South Arkansas and beneath the US Gulf of Mexico coast, too.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 28 by Minnemooseus, posted 11-28-2002 11:21 AM Minnemooseus has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 31 by Randy, posted 11-28-2002 2:17 PM Coragyps has replied

  
Coragyps
Member (Idle past 765 days)
Posts: 5553
From: Snyder, Texas, USA
Joined: 11-12-2002


Message 32 of 64 (24820)
11-28-2002 2:43 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Randy
11-28-2002 2:17 PM


Maybe the discrepancy is partly that sodium chloride itself is only 2.67% by weight in (standard) seawater. I get 2.74 x 10^13 kg of salt per cubic km of water from this. Still tough to get to evaporate in a rainstorm.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 31 by Randy, posted 11-28-2002 2:17 PM Randy has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 33 by Randy, posted 11-28-2002 2:56 PM Coragyps has not replied

  
Coragyps
Member (Idle past 765 days)
Posts: 5553
From: Snyder, Texas, USA
Joined: 11-12-2002


Message 36 of 64 (24853)
11-28-2002 8:07 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by funkmasterfreaky
11-28-2002 5:51 PM


The whole core is iron (or iron-nickel alloy, maybe with a little iron sulfide), solid at the center and liquid around. The mantle is above the core, and is silicate-based rock - but hot enough that it flows very slowly, like "molasses in January." The crust, that we live on, is a skin of rock about as comparatively thick as the peel of an apple.
The liquid iron generates the Earth's magnetic field, and the fluidity of the mantle drives the "lava lamp" of plate tectonics.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 35 by funkmasterfreaky, posted 11-28-2002 5:51 PM funkmasterfreaky has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 38 by funkmasterfreaky, posted 11-28-2002 10:43 PM Coragyps has not replied

  
Coragyps
Member (Idle past 765 days)
Posts: 5553
From: Snyder, Texas, USA
Joined: 11-12-2002


Message 45 of 64 (25196)
12-01-2002 10:56 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by funkmasterfreaky
12-01-2002 9:51 PM


quote:
If you can at all help clarify/support/refute my doubts as to the radiometric dating I would appreciate it. thanx
One little chunk of evidence in favor of the constancy of radioactive decay rates that is observed rather than relying on some quantum-mechanical proof has to do with supernovae. Most of the light from a supernova comes from the energy given off by the decay of nickel-56 to cobalt-56 and on to stable iron-56. These half-lives are short - days to weeks, if I remember right, and both give off lots of precisely characterized radiation. The thing that shows the constant rate of decay is that the half-lives calculated from a nearby, naked-eye supernova are identical to the half-lives calculated from one a billion light-years away, that exploded a billion years ago: the light from the explosion is only now getting here. If the decay rate was different in the past, we would see a difference in the fading-out of distant and nearby supernovae.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 44 by funkmasterfreaky, posted 12-01-2002 9:51 PM funkmasterfreaky has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 46 by funkmasterfreaky, posted 12-02-2002 12:40 AM Coragyps has replied

  
Coragyps
Member (Idle past 765 days)
Posts: 5553
From: Snyder, Texas, USA
Joined: 11-12-2002


Message 51 of 64 (25239)
12-02-2002 9:28 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by funkmasterfreaky
12-02-2002 12:40 AM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by funkmasterfreaky:
[B] Okay then now i get curious how we know the speed of light? How was this arrived at? Does it's speed decay, or maintain at the same rate forever?[/QUOTE]
The decay rate of nuclei like nickel-56 can be calculated, sort of, by equations that depend on the speed of light as one of their constants. If the speed of light had changed, the decay rate and energy of decay would have changed too, and observation shows that they haven't.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 46 by funkmasterfreaky, posted 12-02-2002 12:40 AM funkmasterfreaky has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024