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Buzsaw
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Message 4 of 33 (476442)
07-23-2008 10:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by LudoRephaim
07-23-2008 11:45 AM


Savage Is Not A Savage
LudoRephaim writes:
Recently the radio shock jock Michael savage made the statement that autism was a fraud and that most autistic children were brats who needed to be repremanded (sometimes physically) by their fathers.
I heard the Savage show on autism live. Several times during the show he stated that there were legitimate autism cases but too often school officials who do not have medical credentials are diagnosing troubled children as autistic and committing them to drug and social services programs that are not in the best interest of the children and their families.
Twice during two different shows there were case workers who called into the show and wholeheartedly confirmed Savage's concerns.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 14 of 33 (476569)
07-24-2008 8:25 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Hyroglyphx
07-23-2008 11:53 PM


Re: Savage Is Not A Savage
NJ writes:
Well, I trust your judgment over the media's any day of the week. I should have known they would manipulate anything in order to invent a story out of nothing. So I will tentatively retract my previous statement. Thanks for clarifying, brother
Hi good bud. It's great to have you posing again.
One has to listen to Michael Savage a few times to begin to appreciate him. I don't always agree with him but he's very intelligent and knowledgeable. The man's totally honest and speaks his mind boldly with confidence because he's usually quite right. For saying what he thinks like it is he pays a price and is presently embroiled in a lawsuit.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 15 of 33 (476574)
07-24-2008 8:58 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Minnemooseus
07-23-2008 10:30 PM


Minnemooseous writes:
Michael Savage - Wikipedia(commentator)
Thanks, Moose. I wasn't aware that Savage was not his name.
Wikipedia also offers some information as to how the name Savage appealed to him. The whole link is worth a read.
Here are some credentials which, imo, indicate that he's not whistling in the wind about his charges relative to autism and other nutritional related matters. MD practitioners who treat autism have relatively little education in nutrition so he's likely more of an authority on this topic than are most in the medical field . Like much of what modern medicine advocates and practices, too much of it is $$$ driven and not in the best interest of their patients, including children.
He holds master's degrees in medical botany and medical anthropology and he earned a Ph.D. from the University of California, Berkeley, in nutritional ethnomedicine. As Michael Weiner, he has written books on herbal medicine and homeopathy. As Michael Savage, he has written four New York Times bestsellers. His radio show reaches more than 10 million listeners on 410 stations throughout the United States, ranking third in number of stations syndicated nationwide and third in nationwide audience behind Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.
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He obtained a Ph.D. in 1978 from the University of California, Berkeley, in nutritional ethnomedicine. His thesis was titled Nutritional Ethnomedicine in Fiji. Savage spent many years researching botany in the South Pacific and has a background in alternative medicine. While in the South Pacific, he became fascinated with the 19th-century sailor Charles Savage, who was believed to be the man that first brought firearms to Fiji.[5]

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 17 of 33 (476576)
07-24-2008 9:48 PM
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07-24-2008 9:12 PM


Subbie, homeopathy is just one of the areas of studies, experience and knowledge which Savage has engaged in.
I'm not into homeopathy perse but likely there are some benefits derived from some aspects of it if one understands it and is knowledgeable as to proper application of it. As with prescription drugs, missaplication = snake oil, except that the side effects of prescription drugs are usually far more risky.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 23 of 33 (476710)
07-25-2008 9:59 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Granny Magda
07-25-2008 9:20 AM


Granny Magda writes:
........there us another benefit to homoeopathy; idiots with nothing really wrong with them can go and waste their time and money with a homoeopathic quack instead of wasting the time of real doctors. The problem starts when those who really are ill do the same...
As for Savage, a belief in homoeopathy should bring up a warning flag. I would take anything this man said with a generous helping of salt.
It appears that you and some others here do not understand the science of homeopathy or how homeopatic methodology works.
1. Homeopathic treatment is a very safe, cheap and effective means of treatment, often effecting relief in both acute and chronic ailments.
It has been effective when applied properly by trained practitioners in some chronic ailments which have been considered incurable by conventional medicine.
2. My hay fever pills which are the most effective that I've ever found are homeopathic. They are relatively cheap remedies which I found on my own in our local health food outlet.
3. Homeopathy works most effectively to strengthen and maintain a healthy immune system in the body holistically. It mimics the disease so as to stimulate the body's own immune system which in turn wards off the ailment. It is a simple scientific concept which makes logical sense as well.
4. Children are agreeable to it since the medicine is usually administered as a sugary pill. Perhaps that's one reason why some mistakenly regard it as quack medicine.
5. Homeopathic medicines are easy to administer. Homeopathic medicines are usually dispensed as sweet sugar pills, which are very easy to take. Due to this reason, children readily agree to take homeopathic remedies.
6. Homeopathy, by enhancing the whole body's immune system, effects a more healthy body in general so as to eliminate the need to depend upon the $$$ medical establishment and to avoid some of their dangerous and $$$ practice.
7. Being holistic, it does not require the need for multiple specialists in the various segments of health care.
I'm sure that if Michael Savage were to grace us with his expertise on this he would be able to cite much more as to why the science on this is valid.
Again, Michael Savage is a very intelligent fellow indeed. One can widen their knowledge and understanding by listening to him on a number of topics.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 32 of 33 (477410)
08-01-2008 9:49 PM


A Savage Response
Savage recently had a professional psychiatrist on who downsized Savage's 90% to about 50% of alleged autism diagnoses as bogus. That's still very significant.
His talk show comes into WYSL, Rochester from my area very poorly and it goes in and out of frequency, so I did't get the whole interview with this professional who he had on. What I heard made good sense to me. Imo, the doc vindicated Savage's point.
As I've contended, Savage is no dummy, though in this case, perhaps he exaggerated the extent of the problem.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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