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Buzsaw
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Message 6 of 50 (418564)
08-29-2007 12:28 AM


Many Professions Genuine Also
Having been in evangelical Christian churches for 60+ years I've met, known and heard genuine testimonies of many who have turned to God and his son Jesus in times of crisis. Often when folks find where their own sinful ways lead God's Holy Spirit convicts them resulting in genuine and lasting new life/person. I'm talking folks who've been saved for many years. Gangland Mobster Mickey Cohen's wiretap expert, Jim Vaus received Christ at a Billy Braham crusade, confessed to police and became a gospel evangelist type who both my wive and I heard speak before we were married. I believe there was some kind of a crisis that led him to the crusade. Jim Dobson recently interviewed Son of Sam David Berkowitz who's been a long time Christian in prison since receiving Christ Jesus. He was demonic when he went to prison and the guards even feared him. Now he helps other inmates and does helpful work in the prison. He says he has no desire to ever leave prison as he agrees he should do his time. Chuck Colson of Watergate received Christ in a crisis time. I could go on but these are a few starter examples.
I am presently working with a local guy 6'7 tall in his late thirties who grew up in under a drunkard dad, he himself has been an alcohic all his adult life as well as his three brothers. He was recently baptized, going to church regularly, and working full time. He came to me in a crisis time when he was headed for prison for repeated drunk driving et al. They decided to give him a last chance with ankle bracelet parole & doing alcohol anonymous for a spell. This didn't do it in the past for him and wasn't working for him this time either but kept him borderline. His name use to be on the local radio quite often for getting in fights and other trouble. Having worked for me when he was younger, he came to me for spiritual help, remembering that I tried to help him then. I've been mentoring him for the last two years, impressing upon him to read the Bible daily, pray daily, go to an evangelical church once a week, work 5 or 6 days and become nutrition minded which not only helps his craving for alcohol but feeds his brain the nutrients which make it function more efficiently. He's finally been progressing nicely into all of these areas remarkably well. He's had a few ups and downs but has been consistently holding a job and living the Christian life walking the talk. The nutrition program has helped him and has gotten his wife off oxygen dependence for serious illness (I forgot the name of it).
Among crisis coversions are some other athletes as well. Btw, Evel Knievel has recently been on Robert Shuler's Hour of Power from the Crystal Cathedral when in some kind of a crisis time recently got saved, called Robert and wanted to tell his story on the Hour of Power. It was arranged and his testimony was so interesting and inspiring that Shuler scrapped his own message and gave Evel the podium, after which hundreds of people came forward for salvation by receiving Jesus, baptism et al. The event was so significant that Shuler is going to do a repeat of some kind again in the next week or two if I remember correctly. If you want to hear it it's worth your time just to hear the interesting account of his life story, the accidents & all he went through. He makes you laugh & may make you cry.
So what Michael Vick needs now is our prayers, that he too will walk the talk.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

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Buzsaw
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Message 28 of 50 (418765)
08-30-2007 8:42 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by macaroniandcheese
08-29-2007 6:20 PM


Re: Many Professions Genuine Also
cute, but yes. do you really think that something other than being a nasty bastard made him kill people?
Being a nasty bastard made him kill people, yes. It also made him continue to be a nasty bastard in prison with demonic powers and obnoxious behavior to the point that the guards feared him.
When he turned from a nasty bastard devil to a loving helping caring repentent saint of God is when he found and received Jesus, i.e. the Spirit of Jesus which transformed him, making him a new creature as the apostle Paul says it in II Corinthians 5:17.
Some spirits turn people into devil killers as is the case with fundamentalist Jehadist Muslims, some of the anti Biblical/Christian popes and bishops of Vatican City in the days of the bloody inquisitions and was the case with killer Son of Sam before he found deliverance via Jesus whose spirit turns devilish killers into loving Christian saints.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

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Buzsaw
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Message 46 of 50 (418869)
08-30-2007 9:40 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by macaroniandcheese
08-30-2007 9:09 AM


Re: Many Professions Genuine Also
The Holy Bible which has over 50 references of demons, i.e. devils plural and a number of the singular, i.e. devil refering to demons. The word demon is a modern term for devil/demon. They made humans do evil and/or self inflicting things.
Abe: My Greek/English Interlinear as well as my ASV Bible also use the word/s demon/s.
Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

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