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Granny Magda
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Message 13 of 67 (459608)
03-08-2008 7:56 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by tesla
03-08-2008 7:29 PM


Re: i predict
i will not vote for a woman in politics because I'm a conservative. and a woman has their place in the world, and things they are better suited for than men.
Like cooking, cleaning and general household drudgery I assume. Compare and contrast with the following;
"i will not vote for a negro in politics because I'm a conservative. and a negro has their place in the world, and things they are better suited for than whites."
What exactly makes you think that that your statement is any more acceptable than the one above?

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Granny Magda
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Message 15 of 67 (459611)
03-08-2008 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by tesla
03-08-2008 8:09 PM


Re: i predict
race does have an effect on thought process, but not like gender.
I'd love to see you back up that racist crap with some actual evidence there tesla.
a woman is more caring
What, like Maggie Thatcher? Yeah, she was a veritable sweetheart. When she was in power over here, Britain positively rejoiced in warm, fuzzy, caring happiness. Apart from the riots...and the strikes... and that war...
a woman is more caring, but men more logically cold.
Again, this is just your opinion. There is no evidence for this, it's just your excuse for bigotry.
Clinton's antics towards obama of slander, i would say she is a perfect representation of how a woman's emotions can override a cooler logic.
Oh please! Clinton knows about slander all right, she was the victim of numerous slanders from the predominantly male Republican party during Bill's time in office.
If you came out with some sexist crap like this during the process of employing a toilet cleaner you would almost certainly be at risk of being prosecuted under gender discrimination laws (in the UK at least, I assume that the US is similar in this regard). I have no idea why you seem to think that this kind of discrimination is somehow more acceptable when deciding who gets the most important job on the planet.
What you say about the shallow nature of the modern electorate may have a grain of truth in it, but what you say afterwards doesn't follow on from it at all;
because of this now broad view of the people candidates and voters both, would now allow a woman as a president.
Ah, I see. The reason other people are less bigoted than you, is because they're shallow. It's not just because you would rather keep women in their place, as good little domestics slaves, oh no.
the population will most likely not rally behind a female candidate.
That must be why she lost so badly in New York and why she's way behind in the primaries. Except...wait a minute...
P.S. I type with the two finger "point and stab" method too, and I seem to manage to capitalise my posts. Just take your time; it's not a race.
Edited by Granny Magda, : Added PS

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Granny Magda
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Message 20 of 67 (459617)
03-08-2008 9:05 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by tesla
03-08-2008 8:51 PM


Re: i predict
OK, tesla, let's agree to disagree, because;
a) I'm never going to stop calling bullshit on statements like the ones you've been making.
and
b) Your sexist and racist views aren't really the issue here.
tesla writes:
if Clinton wins the nomination in America, Mccain will most likely be president because of a large majority conventional base.
I do wonder if Clinton isn't a liability, but not for the same reasons (I rather fancy that the US electorate are not all as sexist as tesla).
Isn't Hillary still hated? I remember a rich seam of hate for her during Bill's tenure. Isn't that a concern? It wouldn't be a factor in the primaries, because it's not Democrats who hate her, but might it not be an issue with the middle class moderates who swing the vote? What do people think?
As a neutral observer, I'm just glad that whoever wins this time, none of the candidates is too awful and we won't have to suffer another four years of a retarded chimp in the oval office. Yay!

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