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joz
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Message 3 of 21 (4561)
02-15-2002 8:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by gene90
02-14-2002 10:04 PM


From:
http://www.cecm.sfu.ca/projects/ISC/Pihistory.html
Babylonians 2000? BCE 3.125 = 3 + 1/8
Egyptians 2000? BCE 3.16045
China 1200? BCE 3
Bible (1 Kings 7:23) 550? BCE 3
Archimedes 250? BCE 3.1418 (ave.)
Hon Han Shu 130 AD 3.1622 = sqrt(10) ?
Ptolemy 150 3.14166
Chung Hing 250? 3.16227 = sqrt(10)
So book, chapter and verse would be 1 kings (7:23)...
Didn`t some state senator somewhere down south try to get pi changed to 3 in his state a few years ago?
Seems to me that if the babylonians got 3.125 in 2000 B.C a God inspired inerrant bible should do better than 3 in 550 B.C....
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joz
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Message 5 of 21 (4611)
02-15-2002 12:36 PM
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02-15-2002 11:23 AM


quote:
Originally posted by gene90:
Those are specifications for Solomon's temple (so it is in a historical rather than miraculous context), and the value of pi is not stated specifically, but calculated (by modern observers) from the measurements of a big brass tub.)
It reads:
"[23] And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about."
I`d disagree with you there Gene if they are specifications then the round (circular) tub was designed to have a diameter of 10 units length and a circumfrence of 30 units length. Thus not a measurement error but a geometric error on the part of the tubs designer....
As the value of pi is circumference over diameter of a circle and the designer of the tub stipulated a circumference precisely 3 times the diameter it is a fair bet he thought that pi was equal to 3....
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joz
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Message 7 of 21 (4677)
02-15-2002 11:56 PM
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02-15-2002 6:01 PM


However somewhere along the line a "round" object with a circumference 3 times the diameter crept into the creationists inerrant bible....

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joz
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Message 10 of 21 (4802)
02-17-2002 12:04 AM
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02-16-2002 11:48 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Mister Pamboli:
This explains it all without any mathematical jiggery-pokery or ingenious interpretations or such like fundamentalist squirmings:
http://www.yfiles.com/pi.html
For my next trick, the Flying Pigs of the Gadarenes ...

Sorry but if as Herr Katz claims the hebrew "line" is really 5+6+100 how does the prescence of 3 digits adding to 111 imply that the author meant the ratio of 111 over 106?
(*added by edit* hey Mr P that was sarcasm wasn`t it?)
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