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gene90
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Message 1 of 21 (4527)
02-14-2002 10:04 PM


Can someone provide me the Bible reference where it was calculated that pi=3?
I think I should go ahead and add my frank opinion on using pi=3 argument against the Bible. Pi, for all practical purposes, is 3.14. Now, doing a simple percent accuracy calculation ((3 / 3.14)*100%) using the rules of rounding in science (as I was taught anyway) we get a 96% accuracy. To the best of my understanding, 96% accuracy is acceptable for most scientific measurements. Now I can see why we would have trouble with civil engineers calculating pi as three, but I don't understand why we hold it against the Bible.

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gene90
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Message 4 of 21 (4598)
02-15-2002 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by joz
02-15-2002 8:21 AM


Those are specifications for Solomon's temple (so it is in a historical rather than miraculous context), and the value of pi is not stated specifically, but calculated (by modern observers) from the measurements of a big brass tub.
It seems fairly apparent to me that we have a measurement error of the tub which is probably neither perfectly round nor perfectly 30 cubits in the first place. (Can you imagine Solomon's craftsmen when they were told that the tub was to have a perimeter of exactly 30 cubits in length and ten wide?)

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gene90
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Message 6 of 21 (4645)
02-15-2002 6:01 PM
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02-15-2002 12:36 PM


[QUOTE][b]As the value of pi is circumference over diameter of a circle and the designer of the tub stipulated a circumference precisely 3 times the diameter it is a fair bet he thought that pi was equal to 3....[/QUOTE]
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And that's a double-whammy because it implies that the tub was never built, or else they wouldn't call it "round".
But it wasn't a specification, as in an order for the craftsmen to build, it was simply the measurements of the alleged tub.

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gene90
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Message 8 of 21 (4787)
02-16-2002 8:48 PM
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02-15-2002 11:56 PM


Yes, that can't be denied.

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