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Author Topic:   Hydroplates unchallenged young earth explains Tectonics shortcomings!
Coragyps
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Message 12 of 197 (83326)
02-05-2004 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by simple
02-05-2004 12:35 AM


Re: Simple on the Watch List
Third time of asking, simple: pick a chapter in Walt's online book. I (we) will rip it a new 'un.
Center for Scientific Creation – In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood
N.B. : I sort of think that the Walt Brown that's the Socialist candidate for president might be a different guy.

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Coragyps
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Message 21 of 197 (83476)
02-05-2004 4:33 PM
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02-05-2004 4:17 PM


Re: in context
In that if a certain thing left 'footprints' why was there no prints at other scenes of the crime,
What folks here have been trying to get you to recognize is that Dr Brown's fantasies have left no footprints ANYWHERE AT ALL! None! Nada! Keine! Not any!

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Coragyps
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Message 117 of 197 (84088)
02-06-2004 9:42 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by simple
02-06-2004 8:56 PM


Re: education? less than you'd like, more than I care for!
Do not some old earthers think the world was bomblasted by meteorites? Do you have a heat problem there?
That heat isn't quite so big a problem when it's 3.85 billion years ago, and there is no unambiguous evidence that even the earliest life was around to get roasted by it. Rather a different kettle of boiled fish with Ark than Dr Brown's silliness leads to.
His big point exactly is that you pt folks have no good mechanism!
I beg your pardon, but convection currents are a pretty good driver for plate movement - and subducting plates have been imaged by seismography all around the earth. That's the same technology that finds the oil and gas that heat your house and power your car, y'know. It works.
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Coragyps
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Message 168 of 197 (84849)
02-09-2004 9:28 PM
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02-09-2004 8:48 PM


Re: spider -if I'm in a web come on out & get me!
If I understand though so far, it sounds like you have a hypothesis of how the 'reefs' were formed, and it involves long time periods,
I'll bet that is what JM has in mind, too. Why don't you go to Guadelupe Mountains National Park, out west of Carlsbad Caverns, on your next vacation. Look at El Capitan for a while, and hike around on it. Take Walt with you, if you wish. Then propose a way to get a 1600-foot thick reef of shallow-water organisms that require clean water to grow in a year. Or a thousand years. And come back here and tell us about it.
And don't forget the Delaware Basin, just south of there. It has 7000+ feet of millimeter-thick layers, alternately windblown sand and organic-rich shale. Give us a catastrophic theory for that, too.
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Coragyps
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Message 172 of 197 (84860)
02-09-2004 10:01 PM
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02-09-2004 9:32 PM


Re: flatlanders see no spititual, or supernatural
less than 4000! Big topic, a quikie on that if present birth rates & death rates accounted for, creation books have it as perfect for today's population!!!
Yeah, you got us there. Using the current rate of cockroach population growth, you're exactly right. The Flud was in, let's see, carry the 2,..... yep. April 2002. Probably April 22, 2002. You win, simple. It was recent, all right.

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Coragyps
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From: Snyder, Texas, USA
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Message 180 of 197 (84954)
02-10-2004 7:46 AM
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02-10-2004 12:48 AM


Re: don't insult your ancestors!
I was talking real life birth rates.
Errrmmm.... no, you weren't. You were reciting, probably without any inspection of its basis, creationist assertions based on post-industrial revolution, post-modern medicine human birth rates. These are much higher than pre-industrial, which in turn are much higher than pre-agricultural rates.
This topic has been on this forum before - someone even calculated the entire world population at the supposed time of Moses using these same rates that "proove" a young Earth. And guess what: there weren't enough folks on earth then to even play the roles of the Egyptians.

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