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kuresu
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Message 18 of 185 (429370)
10-19-2007 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by arachnophilia
10-18-2007 11:12 PM


Winter solstice
well, that's the problem. jesus wasn't born on dec 25th. neither was horus, btw (though he's a lot closer). and neither was any other god or religious figure they claimed was. that date does indeed have significance: it's the winter solstice, just as they say.
Are you using a different calender? The one I use has it as the 22nd of december of this year. The range seems to be from the 20th to 23rd going back in history.
Apparently (I'm reading the article as I write this post), the winter solstice when the julian calender was accepted was the 25th (45B.C)
More importantly, perhaps, is that the Catholic church originally banned celebration on that day (given that it was "pagan"). Later the Christians co-opted the Sol Invictus celebration.
If I had my previous year's history book, I could cite it (as it has the same info about the Sol Invictus), but this is all from:
Winter solstice - Wikipedia.
My question--if christmas was chosen to be celebrated on that day because it was the day of the solstice, why isn't it based on the solstice of the year Christ was supposedly born instead of when the calender was accepted?
(actually, I think I see the answer in the post I'm replying to. It's looking like christ has less and less to do with winter solstice and more with co-oting pagans)
Actually, you know, I should read your posts better. You actually have a good chunk of this info already there.

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kuresu
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Message 20 of 185 (429373)
10-19-2007 2:07 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Spektical
10-19-2007 1:51 PM


Re: horus
also if it wasn't for these 'crockpots' as you so label them, the world would be dead!...no balance. Just like if space was white instead of black, the sun would be usless
The sun has more uses than just providing light. It provides heat. It also provides a center of gravity for the solar system. This, of course, is not to say that the sun was created to accomplish these tasks, but rather, these "tasks" are the results of the sun's creation. Almost like unintended consequences.
As to your point about the world being dead without crackpots. The world will be dead when the sun envelops (or comes damn near close) the earth when it hits its red-giant phase.
I think you mean to say the world would be boring without crackpots. This is debatable. After all, so long as you have fundies (religious or otherwise) and moderates, there won't be any ideological boredom.
Your questions are relatively pointless. What are you trying to prove? That the video is valid?

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kuresu
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Message 25 of 185 (429391)
10-19-2007 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Spektical
10-19-2007 2:50 PM


Re: Unmitigated b.s.
To bring the pH level of an acidic solution to 7, you have to add an equal amount of a very basic solution.
Or a lot of water. pH is determined by the concentration of hyrdogen ions.

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