HOW DO I GET THE GIRL I LOVE INTO LIKING ME???

If you haven't noticed, this is an intellectual discussion forum. Intellectuals, even the female ones, are terrible with girls because we are all nerds. Perhaps it would be better if you find another forum where members are high school jocks who like to score with a different girl every night. I think they will give you better advice.If you are interested, you can propose a topic in Propose New Topics Forum. If you want, you can talk about the evolution of courting (wooing) and dating and how it's affected most human societies today.Gen 29:18 And Jacob loved Rachel; and said, I will serve thee seven years for Rachel thy younger daughter...Peace

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People, please look at the Style Guide for EvC thread by Sylas. Pay particular attention to step 3.

The thing is girls in high school and college like guys that appear confident. Confident guys in high school and sometimes college tend to be assholes (trust me, every girl I know have told me this at some point).I was discussing this with my friends the other day. One of them raised this point, and I agreed with him. He said that in high school and before there are 2 ways you can gain enough confidence to approach people in real life.1) Be an asshole and have the appearance of security and self confidence that come with it.2) Be nice and take the long way of gaining the confidence.Although I know some people that have taken the 2nd path at relatively early ages (being both nice and confident in high school), the majority of the time it is just easier to take the first route and get girls.Girls often deny this, but the truth is good girls tend to like bad guys. You may deny this, but it is true. Being a gentleman will likely get you nowhere when it comes to girls in high school or college. Only mature good girls will realize that it is in their best interest not to be treated like crap by the guys. Oh really?If he is a high school student or younger, which I suspect he is, chances are he will not be able to break the ice with the advices that I have seen so far (no offense to anyone). You guys are thinking in terms of maturity, which most girls in high school are have not achieved. Sure, if he follow your advices he might become her friend or even best friend. But he will never get beyond that.The reason I wanted to refer to him to high school jocks, besides joking around, was because he could learn a lot from high school jocks. For one thing, social confidence is their strength and his weakness.

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People, please look at the Style Guide for EvC thread by Sylas. Pay particular attention to step 3.

Shraf, I hate to break this to you, but there aren't that many people like you in middle school, high school, or college.Being gay have given me an interesting view on the typical high school girl. You see, for some darn reason girls tend to tell me everything about themselves as soon as they find out that I'm gay. I can confidently say that most of them can't tell the difference between arrogance and confidence. I think we are miscommunicating here. I am talking about girls when they are in middle school, high school, and sometimes college. You are talking experienced, matured girls. Inexperienced usually can't tell the difference between confidence and arrogance. That is why I referred to them as the same thing. It's not just the women I've known. Again, high school girls can't tell the difference. It's also hard for a guy in high school to gain enough confidence without being arrogant. Yes, and I am very happy for you. However, we are not talking about you, are we? We are talking about high school age girls. Stop confusing yourself with them. Yes, being nice takes a long time to attract high school age girls. Since I am still in college, I can't say if this is true for adults.Don't get me wrong. I think that it is great for a guy to be nice in high school. However, if he has decided to take that route then he shouldn't expect much response from the girls. They like confident-looking guys. Again, note that most can't tell the difference between confidence and arrogance at that age. Of course not. I'm the wrong person you want to ask that question to What I can tell you is that my shoulder is a very popular place for girls to put their faces on to cry. i think you are missing my point. My point is that you either get into the game or don't expect much. Sure, sometimes you get lucky and find that girl that's mature enough to recognize what's best for her. However, such girl belong to a dying species. Unfortunately, it's hard to tell the difference between the 2.I'm just trying to help the guy out by making him realize that he shouldn't expect much or there will be lots of disappointment. I'm willing to bet 2 bucks that being her best friend won't be enough. He will hope and hope and hope. But essentially, he will realize that she just ain't interested in a gentleman.Of course, I'm assuming that she is the typical high school girl. If she is not, more power to her. *Chuckles*No, but finding a happy medium, especially in high school, is harder than finding a real gentleman. Sorry, but I don't think so. If you were "too mature," you would have realized that nothing serious could come out of it and wouldn't pay attention to it. Don't tell me you were never attracted to those popular guys. I do agree that plenty have. However, I have always suspected that they just pretended to be that way because they couldn't act like the popular ones. Yes, I have a very pessimistic view of high school.Again, being gay have given me a unique perspective on this matter. As soon as they find out I'm gay, I automatically become their personal psychologist. Haha. That's one way of doing it. Well, all I gotta say to him is "good luck". Depends on what you mean by "smart." Let just say that many of the top 10% girls in high school threw themselves at the jocks' feet very willingly and cried on my shoulders later on.My original point was that he shouldn't expect much if he wanted to be a gentleman... like trying to connect with her by sharing the same interests and such.But who knows. May be he'll get struck by extreme luck and this girl turns out to connect back.

If you ever want to seduce a guy, just ask me Edit by PBThis message has been edited by AdminPhat, 04-09-2005 12:02 PM