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mike the wiz
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Message 54 of 71 (324356)
06-21-2006 11:14 AM


Logically, the loss of life will not be payed for equally. That is, no matter how long the sentence for the criminals, they still don't have to undergo the suffering they inflicted upon the victim.
For this reason, I fail to see why any leniance or bias in favour of the criminal, should be observed.
The loss of life is potentially an eternal loss for the victim, if the universe is atheist, and thus can never be replaced.
I would say there are two important factors that must be recognised;
1. To make sure the crime is not commited again, (which happens a lot because of leniant sentences).
2. To make sure that the family of the victim, is adequately served some form of justice, by detaining the criminals as long as is fair and is possible.
In this case, how could one argue that life in prison is unfair, when the criminals still get to live in a comfortable state?
There are starving people, millions, who don't get fed and housed, like criminals do.
These two factors must always have the most weight, IMHO.

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mike the wiz
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Message 56 of 71 (324367)
06-21-2006 11:27 AM
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06-21-2006 11:19 AM


mike can't believe the support for the criminal
I agree with you because even if we are very different as adults, we still can know right and wrong at ten years of age, anyway.
I remember a lot of things I done at that age and I knew that it was wrong and so avoided capture (obviously, infinitely smaller mischief, such as throwing my dinner in the bin etc), but nevertheless, my point is that if we know it is wrong, then surely we should pay.
When I done wrong, I was spanked accordingly, according to the righteousness of my Father's wrath.
I think the, "their brains aren't formed" argument is weak, because children are obviously mischievious, and therefore, mindful somewhat. A babay isn't mischievious, because it has not formed mindfully, but certainly a child of even ten years old, is somewhat mindful and conscious.

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mike the wiz
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Message 58 of 71 (324384)
06-21-2006 12:00 PM
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06-21-2006 11:54 AM


No. I apreciate your points raised, and think you have some valid concerns, but I personally as a hypothetical judge, would probably observe those factors to an extent, but within reason of the enormity of the crime.
I'd also enforce a system that means what it says. For example, if you get fifteen years, then that's how long the imprisonment lasts. Or if you get "life", then that means life in prison.
The factor of "leniancy" is understandable in many circumstances/crimes. But there seems to be a general rule in place, which enforces this factor to it's full, across the board.
Is our justice system good, in your opinion?

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