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V-Bird
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Message 96 of 125 (94518)
03-24-2004 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by Beercules
03-24-2004 4:45 PM


It is expanding without decay, nothing else we have experience of does this, the 'bang' has need of some 'power' to keep doing what it is doing, the power is the endless void, but only because it is the perfect nothing, there is no way to measure the extent of nothing, it is the one true infinity.
The void has no dimensions. No dimensions can be imposed on it as it simply does not exist only as we expand into and occupy it does it take shape and form.

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Message 97 of 125 (94519)
03-24-2004 5:05 PM


The 'we' in the last sentence means the Universe.
[for clarity]

  
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Message 100 of 125 (94531)
03-24-2004 5:43 PM


Percy, still having trouble finding either a mass or energy value for time?
Everything that exists has energy or mass, without them they do not exist... find me the mass or energy of time, find me one single reference anywhere in the World that gives it either, please.
The phrase 'I may be wrong' is something you may just have to repeat.

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V-Bird
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Message 102 of 125 (94534)
03-24-2004 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by crashfrog
03-24-2004 5:44 PM


Because that is what the universe is made of!

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V-Bird
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Message 103 of 125 (94535)
03-24-2004 5:47 PM
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03-24-2004 5:44 PM


Show me something made or formed of time.

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V-Bird
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Message 104 of 125 (94541)
03-24-2004 6:01 PM


Anything will do! hahaha...
Time is as real as God!
To be a 'believer' of Evolutionist theories and believe time exists is plainly and simply an oxymoron...
Time is a construct of the mind as much as Creationism and God[s].
[This message has been edited by V-Bird, 03-24-2004]

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V-Bird
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Message 107 of 125 (94546)
03-24-2004 6:10 PM
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03-24-2004 6:07 PM


Another aether and flogiston man...
Bravo!
Have we found your 'level'.
[This message has been edited by V-Bird, 03-24-2004]

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V-Bird
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Message 110 of 125 (94549)
03-24-2004 6:16 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by joshua221
03-24-2004 6:12 PM


That's not cruel, that's life.
CF, I'll try to be kinder to you... promise.

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V-Bird
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Message 111 of 125 (94550)
03-24-2004 6:19 PM
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03-24-2004 6:15 PM


That Sir, makes you the owner of a fine and alert mind. >doffs cap in respect<

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V-Bird
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Message 114 of 125 (94554)
03-24-2004 6:27 PM
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03-24-2004 6:23 PM


It is the view of every 'higher' scientist I have ever encountered.
It is not 'common currency' simply because the 'common man' would have so much difficulty comprehending it, it seems odd even to someone as 'smart' as you, imagine this fact being announced to the 'great unwashed'... Scientists have a hard time as it is, this one even hurts the moderately endowed 'intellectual'.

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V-Bird
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Message 115 of 125 (94555)
03-24-2004 6:30 PM
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03-24-2004 6:25 PM


CFs' post...
OUCH!!!
[This message has been edited by V-Bird, 03-24-2004]

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V-Bird
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Message 119 of 125 (94621)
03-25-2004 2:28 AM
Reply to: Message 118 by Percy
03-24-2004 7:50 PM


Re: Getting Acquainted
Admin or not, we were having a discussion about the entire space-time fallacy in the thread you linked here... the only place I think I can reply is in here.
I was trying in this thread to point out that there are 2 'types' of 'outer-space' hence my first post here title 'nomenclature'.
There is a huge difference between the 2, one is finite, the other is not, one is in our realm, where we can [eventually] explore, the other will NEVER be part of our domain.
This may seem 'hard' to comprehend, indeed it is, but because you or others cannot see this plain fact it does not mean that it is not serious or in some way falacious.
To discuss infinite space means that by its' very nature that it will be challenging to the giving tenets of thought, many will think they have a grasp of the idea, ie 'it goes on forever' but is merely a gloss, to really understand you need to 'see' that, big as the Universe is, it remains and will always be finite.
This is why I posted 'nomenclature'.
Your intrusion into this thread with the 'this guy's not serious' type post with links back to the 'free for all' only serves to show how hard it is to grasp.
Our discussion there should have remained there, it is you that has brought the link and posted here, I have merely responded in the only place where such a link can be re-butted, where it is read.
I do hope this post clears this up.
I did not link one thread to another, it was you.
You took the thread 'off-topic' or diverted it
This is your post in >free for all>time machine isn't it?
V-Bird writes:
So, this pure energy is called Electro-Magnetic Radiation, EMR can be found as the four forces, they are the 'Strong force' the 'Weak force', the 'Electro-magnetic force' and 'Gravity'.
The strong force, the weak force and gravity are not different forms of expression of EMR. The strong force binds the particles of atomic nuclei together. The weak force is responsible for radioactive decay. Gravity is an expression of mass. EMR is photons.
--Percy
Unless you have a 'doppleganger' that is you isn't it?

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