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Topic: Is macroevolution a religion? Should we rename it evolutiontarianism?

crashfrog

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Message 86 of 112 (93625)
03-21-2004 3:21 AM

Reply to: Message 81 by kendemyer
03-20-2004 3:22 PM

You simply do not see scientific laws, theories, or hypothesis preached on cars for the most part like you do in regards to darwin fish.

Demonstratably false.

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and from www.maxmatic.com - BUMPER STICKERS, a collection of science bumper sticker slogans:

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If this bumpersticker looks blue to you, you're driving too fast.

Civilization is entropy in drag

Heisenberg may have slept here

Alcohol & calculus don't mix. Don't drink & derive!

186,000 miles/sec: Not just a good idea, it's the LAW.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate!

All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.

Are we supposed to believe that chemistry is religion because you can buy a coffee mug with a caffiene molecule on it? Please.

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Message 90 of 112 (93707)
03-21-2004 5:16 PM

Reply to: Message 87 by kendemyer
03-21-2004 4:22 PM

So I said:

1. Preached on cars

2. Like you do ( comparable in number, for example)

To which I:

1) Gave examples of other scientific slogans on a number of things, including bumper stickers

2) Game more examples than you did (i.e. my severalbumper stickers to your single Darwin Fish)

Ergo, your claim is disproved.

Darwinism is preached on cars in a much bigger way than any other pseudoscience or science issues.

Restatement of original claim without new evidence. Against forum guidelines.

For example, memory tells me that I have seen far more darwin fish than UFO bumperstickers.

Anecdotes are not proof. You still have the single example of the fish compared to my several examples of bumperstickers and other paraphenelia. Your claim is refuted.

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Message 102 of 112 (93927)
03-22-2004 6:12 PM

Reply to: Message 93 by kendemyer
03-22-2004 2:57 PM

I believe you are failing to adequately address the central issue of a previous post of mine. Namely, Darwin fish do preach evolution via bumperstickers and we simply do not see this as much in other areas of alledged/real science.

And the central issue that you have failed to address is that bumper stickers don't connote religion.

The majority of bumper stickers I see are political in nature. Is politics religion? Is the Republican Party a church?

For example, I have never seen any of the products that were mentioned on your links.

I, on the other hand, have seen many of them. I submit that you have, too, but have simply forgotten because it wouldn't be convienient to your ideology to remember.

I, however, have never seen any of them.

It of course doesn't matter a whit, because bumper stickers aren't religious, they're universally either political or humorous. The Darwin Fish is a funny satire. It's not a religious text.

You've failed to substaniate a connection between bumper stickers and religion. Your position is refuted for the third time.

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Message 105 of 112 (94314)
03-24-2004 1:11 AM

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03-23-2004 8:27 PM

I believe the darwin fish show that some evolutionist are zealots who wish to preach their message.

Having known several people with darwin fish on their cars, I believe that the darwin fish shows that some people are wiseasses who like to poke fun at religion.

I've spoken to a number of people on the subject. Have you? Or is it enough for your ideology to just make assumptions about motivations?

I simply do not see this type of group behavior manifest by other pseudoscience/science areas that is so manifestly shown by darwinist and which can be readily seen by darwin fish.

To the contrary, you have seen it, because I showed it to you.

I believe darwinism is a false religion.

A belief which colors your entire view and blinds you to the counterevidence I have presented, which is ample.

Ignoring rebuttals and repeating unsupported assertions is against the forum guidelines.

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Message 111 of 112 (94631)
03-25-2004 3:44 AM

Reply to: Message 110 by kendemyer
03-24-2004 11:35 PM

I'll note that you've retracted your claim, then.

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