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Message 775 of 1110 (910026)
04-15-2023 3:25 AM
Reply to: Message 774 by vimesey
04-15-2023 1:45 AM


Re: the Stupid Asshole
vimesey reports:
Well, another day dawns...links to new research
But the Stupid Asshole will just whine "where's the data?"
LOL LOL LOL

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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xongsmith
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Message 780 of 1110 (910033)
04-15-2023 11:38 AM
Reply to: Message 779 by Kleinman
04-15-2023 9:42 AM


Re: The Right to Spread Disease
the Stupid Asshole writes:
Do the math with your own numbers. 0.5%*100,000,000=500,000
and right above that he quotes Percy:
Given the couple hundred million people who have received the vaccine
looks like a million to me, chuckles...
Stupid Asshole also:
And tell us why Covid vaccines are not 100% effective.
why should he state the obvious? you are a DAFT Asshole. How effective do they have to be? In your own words.
Why is the sky blue?
How many people got COVID and died from the disease (these numbers are questionable because the death rate from cancer, heart disease, and other causes dropped since COVID is being reported).
other than a tiny minority that even you cautioned your patients about, we cannot overestimate the political stupidity of a human population.
You have data on these death rates dropping? I've only seen plots of excess deaths added on to the total. It might be worth noting, as the nursing
profession already said, the flu cases dropped due to public mask wearing. i haven't seen that data, but it seems logical.
And==>What did John Prine die of?
Then you might understand why some people refused the vaccine, the risk-benefit ratio was not good enough for them to take the vaccine.
naw, those are Stupid MAGAts.
But people like you want these people to lose their jobs and have them locked up because they will spread a contagious disease. Why not fire and lock up those that got the vaccine but still spread the disease?
Staying at home & working remotely == locked up???? . . . SO
Where's your data, Meester_Data_Man, on how many vaccinated people still infect others? - i mean in cases where it wasn't already
in the body for 2-3 weeks, from undetected up to where it was symptomatic. Where's your data?
During a pandemic the measures should match the urgency. We seem to have reached the other side of the early 2020 urgency
and can now fall back into accepting a future with COVID shots as well as flu shots.
The ongoing mRNA research may yet have even more amazing developments in other fields of public health maintenance.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 784 of 1110 (910040)
04-15-2023 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 781 by Kleinman
04-15-2023 11:47 AM


Re: The Right to Spread Disease
Stupid Asshole fails to read again:
difficulty posting the data that general usage of masks was effective
You might review my comments about the nursing profession regarding flu seasons.
BTW that is "continues to be effective', not "was". I mask up whenever i expect to circulate among others. Masking is hard to get people to do right and is more to protect you from infecting others (kind the subject of this subthread) than it is to protect you, although that is a nice benefit on the side!
One of the better cartoons i saw on this was 2 guys naked with one guy peeing on the other in frame 1. frame 2 has the other guy now wearing pants. but frame 3 has the peeing guy also wearing pants for the better outcome. kinda ignores the guy needing to pee there in the first place, but makes the point.
Do both! Wear the mask and get the Fauci Ouchie!
Squash that chance of getting COVID, maybe not to 0% but close enough.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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xongsmith
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Message 795 of 1110 (910052)
04-15-2023 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 793 by Kleinman
04-15-2023 2:16 PM


Re: The Right to Spread Disease
the Stupid Asshole doesn't realize that we're all making fun of him.
ooops...did i give us away?

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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xongsmith
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Message 867 of 1110 (910163)
04-18-2023 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 866 by Kleinman
04-18-2023 10:20 AM


Re: The Right to Spread Disease
Why didn't you just begin by saying that the public is too stupid to behave properly?
I think a lot of the animosity you created would have been avoided.
It's one thing to claim that the vaccinations are not effective and that masking
is not effective, but both work as instructed if the stupids just follow instructions.
Oh well, it's another day in the neighborhood,

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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xongsmith
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Message 882 of 1110 (910194)
04-19-2023 12:36 AM
Reply to: Message 874 by Kleinman
04-18-2023 3:44 PM


Re: Universal Common Descent
Kleinbottle claims:
It is universal common descent that is mathematically impossible.
No. It is multiple descent that is mathematically impossible.
All life forms use the RNA-DNA mechanism of molecular biology. The complexity of the DNA molecule in a gene is so
staggeringly huge - way too huge for two separate lifeforms to have both come up with the same RNA-DNA mechanism.
The odds on that are so tiny it is essentially zero.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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xongsmith
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Message 930 of 1110 (910312)
04-21-2023 3:12 AM
Reply to: Message 920 by Kleinman
04-20-2023 6:10 PM


Re: The Right to Spread Disease
Kleinbottle restates his remark most of us interpreted as sarcastic:
I realize your experience as a website administrator makes you much more knowledgeable in this topic.
I think you got most of us confused over what you meant by your term, "this topic". Percy and the rest of us thought you meant the topic of this thread, Covid & evolution. if you has written it "more knowledgeable in that area" we might have understood what you were blabbing on about website administration as a way of agreeing that experience in a particular field makes you more knowledgeable in that particular field. .

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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xongsmith
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Message 931 of 1110 (910314)
04-21-2023 3:32 AM
Reply to: Message 922 by Percy
04-20-2023 6:56 PM


Re: The Right to Spread Disease
Percy replies:
Does the real world ever come to a consensus that is wrong? If so, why are they found to be wrong?
The real world is never wrong.
But the consensus can be. At one time a majority of people thought the world was flat.
Today by my estimate some roughly 90% of the world still thinks that
there is a supernatural being who created the universe.
Or that there is a "spiritual world".
Or that any supernatural things exist in the real world,
the natural world.
BUT THAT IS OFF TOPIC.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 942 of 1110 (910334)
04-21-2023 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 935 by Kleinman
04-21-2023 8:36 AM


Re: The Right to Spread Disease
the Kleinbottle replies:
xongsmith will now prove to us that God does not exist.
I said it was OFF TOPIC. Apparently you cannot read.
And then to get back on topic, he will explain why the Covid (or for that matter any) vaccine is not 100% effective.
I roll my eyes and think to myself "Jeezo, what a shitfuck this Kleinman is. An unmitigated SHITFUCK."
Then I post that here.
How does it feel? To be all alone?

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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xongsmith
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Message 944 of 1110 (910336)
04-21-2023 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 937 by Kleinman
04-21-2023 10:00 AM


He's a SHITFUCK
Re: Message 936 the Kleinbottle is a SHITFUCK.
He must love how it feels - he does it so often.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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xongsmith
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Message 945 of 1110 (910337)
04-21-2023 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 941 by Percy
04-21-2023 10:17 AM


Re: The Right to Spread Disease
Of course - but it was the SHITFUCK's introduction of the term "consensus" that I took issue with.
Of course the real world is never wrong, but the consensus of it is can be, because that is a humanly-determined characteristic.
The whole engine of the Scientific Method is to determine the real world, not the consensus of what people think it is.*
* unless it is an actual scientific investigation of the various consensuses in the historical human world.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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xongsmith
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Message 958 of 1110 (910352)
04-21-2023 12:58 PM
Reply to: Message 954 by Kleinman
04-21-2023 12:29 PM


Re: The Right to Spread Disease
SHITFUCK writes:
xongsmith will now explain to us what the real world is. Then he will explain why there is no God and why vaccines are not 100% effective.
the fuck i will. i refuse except maybe standing over your deathbed as you die.
you deserve ZERO replies and should be shunned, left on a melting glacier in the Arctic seas.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 964 of 1110 (910358)
04-21-2023 4:50 PM
Reply to: Message 961 by Kleinman
04-21-2023 2:06 PM


Re: The Right to Spread Disease
SHITFUCK attacks Percy with more misinterpretations like:
The problem with your (Percy's) argument is that you (Percy) assume people will wear an effective mask in an appropriate manner.
Jeezo man, you are fucking shit again! See, you forgot the important part where Percy argues that the people who are in a group of people who wear the masks correctly are more likely to get others to wear them correctly. Even in Message 908 Percy writes:
As to how effectively children wear masks, I expect that how well any group wears masks is dependent upon their average competency, and the greater the competency of a group the more likely its members are to wear masks effectively. I'd guess that the very young and the very old are least likely to wear masks properly.
Doesn't that imply that EDUCATION is the important factor?
Now, as for your denial that you don't ask "when did you stop beating your wife" questions, what do you call this from your Message 920?
What research study shows that you will never transmit an infectious disease?

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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xongsmith
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Message 968 of 1110 (910363)
04-21-2023 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 965 by Kleinman
04-21-2023 4:52 PM


Re: The Right to Spread Disease
SHITFUCKER suggests:
Read the Bible and you can find out.
which one? the old testament or the new testament? the Torah? the Koran? the Bhagavad Gita? the King James?
they all say different things depending on how the writers at the time wanted to control their flock.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 970 of 1110 (910367)
04-21-2023 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 965 by Kleinman
04-21-2023 4:52 PM


Re: The Right to Spread Disease
SHITFUCKER continues to LIE:
You show evidence that masks work and then jump to the conclusion that a general mandate should work but you don't consider whether people wear an effective mask appropriately. Do you think you could scrub in for a surgery without any instruction and do it properly? You have to learn how to wash your hands appropriately, learn how to put on sterile gloves in a sterile manner, how a sterile gown must be put on to avoid contamination, how to put on an effective mask in an appropriate manner, and so on. And now you want to prevent the transmission of an airborne disease with a mask alone, without any instruction at all to the population. It shouldn't surprise you that the data doesn't show that this kind of policy has been effective.
As even I showed, Percy has abundantly demonstrated that EDUCATION is the important factor. You are a SHITFUCKER for lying. Or you are illiterate and cannot read.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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