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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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The most pitiful thing I see here is that a proponent of an “ether theory” seems to have no idea what the ether was meant to be.
The ether was proposed as the medium through which light waves propagated. The idea that it can’t interact with light is absurd.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: If you think that this is simply fiction, what is it doing in the “Is it Science?” Forum ? Pastiches of bad 1970s SF belong in the Coffee House, if anywhere.
quote: It isn’t. That’s pretty obvious.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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I was not just saying that it wasn’t science, I was saying that it wasn’t even:
reasonable within SCI Fi para mainstream pop culture. I would think that his claim that he found his “model” encoded in the Declaration of Independence: Message 3To be completely informative about how I arrived at my Model, I have been doing cryptographic research into a putatively-otherworldly set of codes in a historical Document (The Declaration of Independence), which I claim outlines "inside" but valid basic information needed to derive such a wide-ranging, yet consistently logical, cosmic model. qualifies as “bat shit crazy” and his idea that Michelson and Morley made the mistake of assuming that the ether is the ether is pretty “sad”.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: I very much doubt that any serious researcher would say any such thing. Do you have any references? Or any reason to think that there is any effect beyond the direct effects of the sound waves (which obviously could affect suitably light objects)?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: Ordinary wave mechanics is all that is required. What “hypothetical propositions’ would even be needed? Certainly not your “ether” (which is not the ether).
quote: This is just a wodge of jargon without any real explanation.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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quote: Except it doesn’t show any such thing. As I pointed out it is notably lacking in the details required to show anything. It doesn’t show that you have anything more than some vague ideas and undefined jargon.
quote: You have yet to provide any reason why anyone would want to invoke your “ether” (which isn’t the ether) when there is no need for any exotic physics.
quote: I have yet to see any sign you have anything deserving of being called a model, let alone any sign it works. And simply talking about “vibration’ - whatever you mean by that - does not help.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: Occam’s Razor says that your ideas should be rejected. We don’t need to assume your not-ether so we shouldn’t.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
Look, your so-called “ether” theory is a fantasy of your own invention. That’s why it is not in the least rational to prefer it to actual science.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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The explanation is there. The gravitational forces produced by the matter in the galaxies pulls them together faster than the expansion of the universe is pulling them apart.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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quote: The falsehoods he spouts in his wilful ignorance seems the most likely reason.
quote: Then he is doing a very bad job of it.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: Which isn’t a real model, nor is it about the ether that was proposed by physicists in the 19th Century.
quote: The fact that you call your imaginary whatever-it-is “ether” is hardly relevant. The ether rejected by physics is something else entirely. The fact that you don’t know this and refuse to learn shows your ignorance of even classical physics,
quote: Quantum physics is science, backed by empirical evidence. Your ideas are an ignorant fantasy with no evidential support. I don’t think that we need any further comparison.
quote: I’d say that the crux is why we should care about your ignorant fantasies any more than we care about ICANT’s. So far you haven’t presented any reason to care at all.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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Nice try at pretending to have an explanation. But it’s pretty obvious that you don’t.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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It might be considered - as a joke.
Seriously you can’t refute Michelson-Morley by arguing that the ether isn’t the ether. That’s just stupid. And science isn’t at all interested in something that barely qualifies as empty theorising.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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quote: You mean you’ll show how you try to explain it away with your ignorant fantasies (which do not qualify as a model).
quote: Incorrect. They knew that the ether was defined as the medium through which electromagnetic waves propagated. If your “ether” isn’t that, it isn’t the ether. I pointed this fact out long ago.
quote: Let us note that you have no evidence for any of this. So, as I said, all you have is an ignorant fantasy. And that is all your not-ether not-model really is. Which is why science will ignore it - and rightly so.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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quote: It’s ignorant nonsense. I have no idea why a supposedly intelligent man would waste his time making it up - still less make a fool of himself by repeatedly making the same silly mistaken. Yet you do. Too bad. But not worth anybody’s time - even yours.
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