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ringo Member (Idle past 808 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
Once upon a time a biologist and a geologist were discussing a creationist lecture that they had both attended. The biologist said that the biology was garbage but the geology sounded good. The geologist said that the geology was garbage but the biology sounded good. As an engineer, I found that I could follow the engineering techno-babble and it made sense or was at least coherent. My dermatologist was a sci-fi fan so I asked her about their medical techno-babble and she attested to its quality."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 808 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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AZPaul3 writes:
Man-eating aether. Hungry Hungry Aether. How does the Bermuda Triangle lead to your aether supposition?"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 808 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Michael MD writes:
The university that I attended had about 6000 students at the time. One floor of the library was devoted to science. It had aisles and aisles and aisles of large bound volumes of abstracts - i.e. brief summaries of what was in the papers. The papers themselves contained the details. I won't try to go into great detail on it You can't do science without details."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 808 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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AZPaul3 writes:
You have to read between the lines. Though I do have some questions about that part in the middle."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 808 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
MichaelMD writes:
Not really. Take a look at the Topics list. We have threads more then ten times as long. This is getting to be a lengthy Thread.... It may seem long to you because you've told us everything you know."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 808 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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ICANT writes:
There's a difference between "a" beginning and "the" beginning. Every person has "a" beginning. That doesn't make them creationists. The BBT requires a beginning to exist."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 808 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Have you ever heard of the concept of metaphor? Do you realize that light/darkness (good/evil) has nothing, nothing and also nothing to do with actual physical light? Can we make a conscious choice to be part of light or part of darkness and, if so, do we know which is which?"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 808 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Lucifer means light.
Light is a metaphor for a loving Deity.... Phat writes:
You're the one who's always preaching against objective reality, expecting your seeing-eye god to lead you. I prefer to look out for the trees. ... hope becomes a lot stronger when at least one of us knows the way out of the forest."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 808 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
You have a lot of gall. Go back and answer the hundreds of my posts that you've ignored before you demand that I answer every thought that meanders through your mind.
And Ringo, I expect the same from you. Phat writes:
When have I ever done that? You guys cant wax philosophic about what science tells us will happen in 100 billion (give or take) years and then imply that you dont care about an eternal destiny or purpose..."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 808 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
The same as the difference between "a" big apple and "The" Big Apple.
ringo writes:
What is the difference? There's a difference between "a" beginning and "the" beginning. ICANT writes:
No, I'm pointing out that your comment is nonsense based on your misunderstanding of simple English.
I think you are dancing around my comment... ICANT writes:
That's an unsupported assertion. The Universe required a beginning to exist just like you did."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 808 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
As you have been told, we don't know. You shouldn't pretend that you do. If the universe did not have a beginning to exist, has it existed eternally in the past?"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 808 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
You contradict yourself. You name two hypotheses and then claim there are none. The bounce hypothesis comes to mind as well as the string hypothesis. But there is no way around the universe having a beginning to exist in and from non existence or being eternal."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 808 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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ICANT writes:
Why would a duck want to quack? Why would I want to make such a stupid argument."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 808 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Michael MD writes:
Jules Verne's vehicle to get to the moon was an enormous cannon, for which he presented a "model" in words, including facts and figures based on what people know about firearms. This Thread has presented my Ether Model. H.G. Wells' vehicle to get to the moon was a sphere, which he described in some detail, but the means of getting to the moon was a fictitious woo-woo metal that was impervious to gravity. Verne's vehicle, though impractical, could hypothetically be built."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 808 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Science doesn't work by epiphanies. Even epiphanies - I'm thinking of Kekulé and the structure of benzene - need to be confirmed experimentally.
Do you honestly feel as if your understanding was/is an epiphany and that it will come to light? Phat writes:
That's a false dichotomy. Many people of faith are also people of faith. I feel as if the faith-based community can understand my hypothesis and where I am going. The evidence-based community never will. And few people of faith are likely to swallow your nonsense. Your problem is that you keep trying to turn nonsense into sense. As long as you keep digging, you're just exposing more and more flaws in your thinking."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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