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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
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Phat writes: Where is God right now In the minds of all of those who happen to believe in that particular unique God that humans created and then adopted. God(s) only exist in the minds of the believers. Edited by jar, : add additional line
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Exactly; which is why I have always tried to distinguish between GOD, God(s) and god(s).
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: If you believe that God is only a creation of our mind, you are NOT a believer. Sorry, Charlie. Yet the fact is that I am a believer and reality always wins.
Phat writes: You may talk a good talk and have some logical arguments, but you are not helping anyone...apart from perhaps taking out their trash and helping take shopping carts back inside the store. Your own pride and insistence on your own explanations of what it means to be a Christian are at best helping you to justify your membership in a club according only to your own definition. No Phat, the fact that I am a member of an established and recognized Christian Faith is once again reality.
Phat writes: You might try and pray for wisdom. Of course, your own belief suggests that only a character whom your own mind creates can even respond to you. And more absurdities and simply false assertions from you. I have asked repeatedly how anyone can tell and identify who any character that responds to your mind really might be. I'll ask yet again Phat; how do you know that the thing you claim to be communing with is anything other than a figment of your imagination? But again, I was responding to a question you asked, a specific question even if an absurd one. The question was "Where is God right now"? Stop and honestly read what you wrote. Can you not see that is simply the same question eight year old Virginia O'Hanlon wrote and that you and I have discussed? And can't you see the answer is the same and equally valid for Virginia and for you?
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And once again you simply show that you are either incapable of honestly reading what is written in the Bible stories or simply have not actually read the Bible. You are classic CCoI!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The issue of Christianity vs Evolution is simply utter nonsense taught by the Christian Cult of Ignorance. Use peek mode if needed. Within Christianity almost all of the major Christian sects fully acknowledges that ALL of the evidence supports the Theory of Evolution, an Old Earth, that humans are simply a lineage withing the Order Primates and that neither of the Biblical Flood myths ever happened.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Moshe, if Moshe even really existed, did not write Genesis, Genesis is the product of an unknown number or authors, editors, story tellers and redactors over many many centuries and from at least two entirely different theologies and cultures.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You are of course free to believe any stupid thing you wish. That is a trait of the CCoI. But reality always trumps belief.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And yet the stories of the resurrection all vary and evolve just like all folk tales. It's just like the stories of Saul's conversion and of the Great Commission, as each tale gets repeated and retold it becomes more and more fanciful and unbelievable.
Evolution though is NOT based on faith but in fact based on doubt. That is the big advantage. Any tentative conclusions are tested not just against new evidence but also through EVERY new line of inquiry; every new means of testing. That is why it is science and not faith based. No conclusion in evolution or other areas of sience goes unchallenged. Religion though should be taught in my opinion, and taught early and continuously so that religious beliefs are held to the same standards of evidence as reality or science. Religion has done some good in the world but mostly harm, and it's important that both the good and harm be acknowledged. Edited by jar, : see AbE:
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
candle2 writes: Science knows absolutely well that nothing (the size of the period at the end of this sentence) exploded into the universe that we know today. The idea is laughable. But no one except the Christian Charlatans of the Christian Cult of Ignorance even make such a claim. Stop listening to the lying Christians that feed on fools like you. Edited by jar, : fix quote box
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
No, you do NOT know if Noah even existed and there is absolute evidence that there has never been a world-wide flood at anything during the existence of human beings.
Neither of the Biblical Floods ever happened. And that is yet another reason that religions should be taught in schools so that kids learn the truth and reality of the fables contained in religious tools like the Bible.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
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You need to actually first learn what evidence is and then try to present so. So far no one has ever been able to present any evidence of the existence of Noah or a world-wide flood during the time humans existed.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: Thus jar is not a tribal member unless he too is a missionary and quite good at being a stealth operative--he ranks evidence ahead of belief, which hinders his ability to accept the Spirit...in fact he continually asks what "Accepting Jesus" or "Feeling The Spirit" or "Being In Communion with The Spirit even mean. Tribal members never ask such questions Absolutely correct. Not only do I never get an answer to such questions, the Tribal members can't answer because they honestly have no clue what the answer could possibly be. The Tribal members don't question; don't think, don't look at evidence or reality. The whole existence of the Tribal members is within the bubble closed off from facts, reality, evidence, truth, honesty and in the comfort of the fantasy and god they create.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: You cant lump me in with a bunch of goats simply because I value the first part of the greatest commandment despite being "unable to explain it" to you or anyone else. If you guys cant figure it out, go talk about football, politics, and women while you feed, clothe, and encourage the least of these. Phat, you can't explain it because you have never figured it out yourself. If you had figured it out then you would be able to explain it. The key fact is also pointed out by you in your earlier post. Tribal members don't ask such questions. The Goats in the Matthew 25 parable were all followers of Jesus.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: Do you think it's silly or pointless to talk with Jesus every day and several times a day? How do you know that you are talking with Jesus? Stop and think Phat.
Phat writes: Should they prepare a rubber room for me? Not unless there is a reason to believe you are a physical danger to yourself or others. You are still placing SOURCE over content. What is important is how you respond to the "conversations", how you react to the CONTENT of the talks. It must be CONTENT over source. That does Jesus tell you to do in those conversations? And that's really the difference. The extreme result of placing SOURCE over content is "Got Mitt Un". It is "The Peoples Temple Agricultural Project"; the Spanish Inquisition, the Russian pogroms, the cultural genocide of the 18th and 19th century and even continuing today. If all you get from the conversations is "Whatta good boy you are.", "Way to go!", "You get a gold star today!" then they are most likely harmless. If they make you feel better then they are good. If they make you do more for the least of these then that's even better. It's CONTENT over source.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
US only National (as opposed to the regional or local sects) Baptists:
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