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Pressie
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Message 37 of 427 (790998)
09-09-2016 6:04 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Faith
09-08-2016 6:09 PM


Sure, here is an example.
USING MICROFOSSILS IN PETROLEUM EXPLORATION
This is a paleontologist describing how he uses paleontology and the rock units found to explore for oil in the Gulf of Mexico for an oil company.
Please notice his figure 8, where he describes how significant paleostratigraphical units, together with major stratigraphical units, help him to interpret where holes should be drilled.
Let's copy the last paragraph in the main body of the text here:
Brian J. O'Neill writes:
Commonly in Gulf Coast paleontology, ancient marine environments are related to interpreted water depths (paleobathymetry). This is an oversimplification because benthic foraminifera often respond to water conditions (temperature, salinity, dissolved oxygen, etc.) rather than to depth. However, there are over 40,000 wells drilled in the Gulf. By combining data from existing wells, it is possible to reconstruct the profile of the continental shelf and slope at various points in geologic time. Such paleogeographic maps, combined with seismic profiles and other geologic data sets, are the tools used in the search for hydrocarbons. It is paleontology that uniquely explains the element of geologic time and depositional environment to petroleum geology.

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Pressie
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Message 38 of 427 (791000)
09-09-2016 7:25 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Faith
09-08-2016 3:28 PM


Faith writes:
I was surprised to find out that kbertsche accepts that YECs can find oil with just the basic idea of relative dating and knowledge of the morphology of the rocks.
Really? How so?
I mean, anyone can walk around the appropriate suburbs of Jo'burg where Wits Rocks outcrop and accidentally bump his/her toe on a Wits rock containing some gold.
The real problem is how to try and predict what's going to be found underground. That's where YEC's don't make the cut. Old earth models work.

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Pressie
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Message 310 of 427 (791427)
09-15-2016 7:47 AM
Reply to: Message 308 by Faith
09-15-2016 2:22 AM


Re: Burrows in the rock
faith writes:
First, how does a burrow get fossilized?
Lithified burrow casts. We get those a lot. In real life all over the world.
So easy. The present is the key to the past. Basic geology.
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Pressie
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Message 311 of 427 (791428)
09-15-2016 7:57 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Faith
09-08-2016 5:35 PM


Faith writes:
The sediments wouldn't have been "loose" since they were under enormous pressure from the weight of the strata above, but they would have been quite wet and loose enough to break up if tectonic movement occurred, especially if it opened up a fault that would have been further widened by water rushing into it,...
Nope. Faults form relatively straight lines. Just like faults do.
Faith writes:
...similar to how I think the Grand Canyon was formed. It all rushed through the GC and out the other end, but an underground canyon might have been filled up by sediments collapsing above it.
That would not cause meandering systems, at all.

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Pressie
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Message 362 of 427 (791626)
09-19-2016 5:47 AM
Reply to: Message 346 by Faith
09-16-2016 7:35 PM


Re: OE model vs YEC model
This one is funny:
Faith writes:
I don't know what characteristics of the rock would be involved in identifying it as Carboniferous,....
Me neither. Maybe you read too much creationist stuff to know what's going on in geology?
Faith writes:
it's just that Geologists are always talking about this or that layer as being formed in a shallow sea or a lake and so on and so forth.
I'm not too sure why you mention this.
Some "layers" are formed by volcanic action in Hawaii. Some "layers" are formed by volcanic action in the Great Rift Valley.
Some "layers" are formed on deltas emptying in the Mediterranean. Some "layers" are formed on deltas emptying in Lake Victoria.
Some "layers" are formed in the deepest parts of lakes. Some "layers" are formed in the shallowest parts of lakes.
Some "layers" are formed at MOR's. Some "layers" are formed on beaches.
Some "layers" are formed in the Sahara. Some "layers" are formed on Antarctica due to glaciers. Some "layers" are formed on Antarctica due to thick ice covers.
Some "layers" are formed in the Kalahari desert due to wind. Some layers are formed in the Kalahari desert due to rivers evaporating.
Some "layers" are formed due to floods when rains fall on the highest peaks of the Drakensberg and the mountains get eroded.
The Himalayas are growing at around 5 mm a year.
All of these happening at the same time.
In geology we can distinguish between those settings. The method is quite simple. The present is the key to the past.
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