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Tangle
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Message 54 of 427 (791025)
09-09-2016 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by Faith
09-09-2016 9:01 AM


Re: On Meanders
Just looking at that photo, you can tell that whatever happened, happened slowly. A quick and violent event would not create that shape it would just bludgen its way through.
I was in the Norweigan fjords last week and saw the effect of the huge weight of ice ripping the mountains in two - no hint of a meanders. THAT'S what a you'd expect if it was possible at all.
Personally I don't accept that water alone, in less than a year, could possibly erode that much rock. But if it could, it would not create a meander. We know how fast rivers eroded rock, we need some other real-world evidence to contradict that. As far as I'm aware we have none.
Note steep sides.
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Message 62 of 427 (791041)
09-09-2016 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Faith
09-09-2016 9:53 AM


Re: On Meanders
Ok take that meander - it looks pretty slow and gentle to me.
Now imagine that flat landscape covered by 40,000 feet of water that suddenly has to drain away somewhere. I can't see why it wouldn't go out just like a tide. Unlike ice, it's properly fluid, it wouldn't gouge huge channels, it would take the least line of resistence, it would simply slide away frictionlessly until it got to ground level leaving a flatish landscape strewn with boulders and trees. A bit like what happens after a real flood:

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Message 193 of 427 (791240)
09-13-2016 10:06 AM
Reply to: Message 191 by Faith
09-13-2016 9:51 AM


Re: The utter nonsense of uninhabitable landscapes in ROCKS:
The real problem you've got Faith isn't the rocks, it's the dates.
Here's all the dating science that says that the earth is old. There's not much point worrying about what a lanscape is if your ideas are disproven before they start.
quote:
1 >10,000
1.1 Thermoluminescence dating: 10,000
1.2 Dendrochronology: 11,700
1.3 Oxidizable carbon ratio dating: 20,000
1.4 Widmanstatten patterns: >50,000
1.5 Mitochondrial Eve: 99,000
2 >100,000
2.1 Lack of DNA in fossils: 100,000
2.2 Ice layering: 145,000
2.3 Rock varnish: 250,000
2.4 Permafrost: 225,000
2.5 Weathering rinds: 300,000
2.6 Y-chromosomal Adam: 340,000
2.7 Fission track dating: 700,000
3 >1,000,000
3.1 Relativistic jets: >1,000,000
3.2 Space weathering: >1,000,000
3.3 Petrified wood: >1,000,000
3.4 Naica megacrystals: >1,000,000
3.5 Cosmogenic nuclide dating: >1,000,000
3.6 Iron-manganese nodule growth: >1,000,000
3.7 Amino acid racemization: >1,000,000
3.8 Stalactites: >1,000,000
3.9 Geomagnetic reversals: 5,000,000
3.10 Erosion: 6,000,000
4 >10,000,000
4.1 Milankovitch astronomical cycles: 23,030,000
4.2 Sedimentary varves: 20,000,000
4.3 Coral: 25,000,000
4.4 Seabed plankton layering: 56,000,000
4.5 Baptistina asteroid family: 80,000,000
5 >100,000,000
5.1 Continental drift: 200,000,000
5.2 Nitrogen impurities in natural diamonds: 200,000,000
5.3 Impact craters: >313,000,000
5.4 Rotation of the Earth: 620,000,000
6 >1,000,000,000
6.1 Helioseismology: 4,460,000,000
6.2 Radioactive decay: 4,540,000,000
6.3 Recession of the Moon: 4,500,000,000
6.4 Gyrochronology: 4,600,000,000
6.5 Globular clusters: >10,000,000,000
6.6 Distant starlight: 13,700,000,000

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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Message 248 of 427 (791329)
09-14-2016 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 245 by Faith
09-14-2016 12:20 PM


Faith writes:
Also, I've made the point before that the upturned strata of England, so nicely arranged as a unit, are proof that the continents didn't split in the middle of the building of the Geo Column as conventional dating says, which would have disturbed the column in the middle, which obviously didn't happen, but afterward, and that the tectonic disturbance that would have occurred at the time of the split is the reason for the uptilted strata. Just another small point against the Geo Timescale.
Weird then that England etc was separated from continental Europe by a melting glacier some 450,000 years ago.
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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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