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Pollux
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Message 594 of 1053 (753717)
03-21-2015 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 589 by Faith
03-21-2015 6:51 PM


Re: Flood sermon
The post-Flood ice age is C's statement, not my idea.
Rapid Plate movement never happened. If it did and happened after the Flood, Noah would not have been able to stand up to plant his vineyard because of the continuous earthquakes.

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Message 599 of 1053 (753746)
03-21-2015 8:53 PM
Reply to: Message 598 by kbertsche
03-21-2015 8:19 PM


Re: Flood sermon
This is an excellent set of evidence.
Recent work suggest that the bend in the chain was caused by the hot spot moving south till it reached its present spot.
Several other chains show the same relation between distance travelled and RM time, including a chain of extinct volcanoes up eastern Australia.
"But it is a matter of interpretation!"

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Message 827 of 1053 (760972)
06-26-2015 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 807 by ThinAirDesigns
06-26-2015 2:26 PM


Re: Saline and Carbon Dating
The website archeologyexpert.co.uk in discussing problems in C14 dating (not arguing against it) says "C14 leaches at an accelerated rate from organic matter saturated in water, especially saline water".
Obviously, knowing there is a problem to be allowed for does not invalidate all C14!
{For whatever it's worth, the site is Home - Archaeology Expert (note spelling difference) - Adminnemooseus}
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Add link.

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Message 836 of 1053 (760997)
06-27-2015 1:53 AM
Reply to: Message 829 by Coyote
06-26-2015 9:05 PM


Re: Saline and Carbon Dating
Point taken.
The brief comments I saw that he wrote about RM dating appeared unexceptionable.
My search for "saline and carbon dating" turned up "Carbon Isotope exchange during calcite interaction with brine", which concluded it could inflate C14 age by 10%, so that leaves about 790% of change still required for YEC!
{My guess at a source link for the above: Radiocarbon - Adminnemooseus}
The speaker at the wife's church two weeks ago told how dinosaurs and men coexisted. He was back this week spending his time rubbishing Dawkins and evolution. I spoke to him after and showed him graphs for C14 correlation with tree rings and Suigetsu varves, which he had not seen before. His main argument against RM dating is all the "wrong" dates do not get published - those dastardly archaeologists et al spend lots of good money on dates to get a few they can use.
Coyote, your cover is blown!
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Add a link.

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Message 868 of 1053 (761146)
06-28-2015 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 867 by RAZD
06-28-2015 5:58 PM


Re: Source for Saline and Carbon Dating?
Hi RAZD.
The comments about dating problems I saw at the site were brief and reasonable - I did not see the ones you and Coyote pointed out.
The article I mentioned in message 836 was looking at the effect of calcite on RC dating of GROUNDWATER.
It found a 10% effect.
This is of course no comfort to YEC because it is not dating once-living things, and is too small to materially affect dates. As you show, any actual effect of saline is minimal at best.

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