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Portillo Member (Idle past 4190 days) Posts: 258 Joined: |
God designed time itself, so God is outside of time and has no beginning or end.
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Straggler Member (Idle past 95 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
Port writes: God designed time itself, so God is outside of time and has no beginning or end. How do you know this?
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Portillo Member (Idle past 4190 days) Posts: 258 Joined: |
Straggler writes: How do you know this? This is the reason why God is eternal. Some people say if God created the universe, then who created God. Edited by Portillo, : No reason given.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
This is the reason why God is eternal. To echo Straggler: How do you know this?
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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Portillo writes: This is the reason why God is eternal Straggler and Coragyps asked how you know this, and I'm going to ask the same question, but in another way. Cosmologists studying the universe have not yet gathered enough evidence to know whether the universe is eternal or not. Since you appear to know that God is eternal, you must have gathered sufficient evidence to reach this conclusion. What is that evidence? One other thing. Should your statements about God be construed as a belief that the ID designer is God? If so, do you have any evidence supporting this view? --Percy
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intellen Member (Idle past 4385 days) Posts: 73 Joined: |
bluescat48 writes: Of course, nat selec is also a fairy tale. Please, show me the evidence of this. I had already discovered the boundary line between the natural and intelligent. So, by usng that line, it shows that nat selec was a fairy tale. Nothing makes sense in science except in the light of the new Intelligent Design .
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
So you will show the rest of us that line? Right here?
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4219 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
Ditto to Coragyps post #292.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
God designed time itself, so God is outside of time and has no beginning or end. So who designed the realm in which God resides?
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Portillo Member (Idle past 4190 days) Posts: 258 Joined: |
Straggler writes: How do you know this? "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM." This reveals God as the being who is absolutely self-existent, and who in Himself possesses essential life and permanent existence.
Percy writes: Should your statements about God be construed as a belief that the ID designer is God? If so, do you have any evidence supporting this view? I believe that God is the designer because I believe that God is the designer, architect, supreme being and source of the universe. Edited by Portillo, : No reason given.
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Straggler Member (Idle past 95 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
Portillo writes: I believe that God is the designer because I believe that God is the designer, architect, supreme being and source of the universe. I don't doubt that you do believe this. But why do you think your particular beliefs have any bearing on reality?
Portillo writes: "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM." This reveals God as the being who is absolutely self-existent, and who in Himself possesses essential life and permanent existence. And other books will say other things which suggest that other gods are the undesigned designers of the universe. I suppose with regard to this thread the question is this - Do you consider your belief that the Christian God is the designer to be a faith based position or an evidence based position?
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Portillo Member (Idle past 4190 days) Posts: 258 Joined: |
Straggler writes: I suppose with regard to this thread the question is this - Do you consider your belief that the Christian God is the designer to be a faith based position or an evidence based position? Its both for me. I dont believe in God because it adds some sort of meaning in my life. I believe because I believe it is the truth. And that involves the real world that we see and also the spirit world that we cant see. Edited by Portillo, : No reason given.
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Straggler Member (Idle past 95 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
It is not uncommon for those of faith to convince themselves that their faith based conclusions are also evidenced.
Can you tell us what evidence you use to derive your conclusion that the Christian God is the undesigned designer?
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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Hi Portillo,
I think you're in the wrong thread. You're even in the wrong section of the website. Faith-based arguments belong in the Religious Forums. It works like this. When you have evidence for what you believe, you take it to the Science Forums. When have expressions of faith for what you believe you take them to the Religious Forums. --Percy
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Portillo Member (Idle past 4190 days) Posts: 258 Joined: |
Straggler writes: It is not uncommon for those of faith to convince themselves that their faith based conclusions are also evidenced. Can you tell us what evidence you use to derive your conclusion that the Christian God is the undesigned designer? Are you asking me why I believe that God exists? I dont think its possible to explain in one message why I believe because believing in God isnt something that happens overnight, at least not for me. It is a long spiritual journey. But I do believe it is based on the evidence around me, such as a strong sense of place within a cosmos that radiates the glory of God and displays a divine structure.
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