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Author Topic:   How New Testament Fundi Christians Bless Atheists, Roman Catholics And Others
Phat
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Message 13 of 112 (611829)
04-11-2011 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Hyroglyphx
04-11-2011 10:25 AM


Spirtual or Secular?
Buzsaw writes:
Fundamentalist Protestant Christian Fundamentalists who promote the New Testament fundamentals have been among the majority in nations which are the most free, prosperous and blessed over all. The US has traditionally been the free place to which most immigrants have desired to go.
It seems we are confusing a secular (partially religious) culture which has constitutional freedoms with Protestants. One question to ask is this: Would God bless the religious people and curse the secular?
Buzsaw writes:
Perhaps some of our members here who have went so far as equating Christian fundies to al-Quada need to count their blessings afforded to them by the fundamentals of Christianity practiced by true Christian fundies.
If I accept blessings from God, should I not also attribute cursings and economic hardships to Him as well? Would it be wrong to suggest that many of the blessings of the US were taken through economic and social expansion over a land rich in natural wealth? If everyone suddenly converted to Fundamentalist Protestant Christian Fundamentalism tomorrow, would our problems go away?
Hyroglyphx writes:
America was neither a Christian nation nor a secular nation... It's simply a nation with people of varying beliefs.
Much of our laws evolved from English Common Law and from the Ten Commandments before that. Evidence does seem to show that our laws have evolved independent of any Biblical direction, and quite frankly, this allowed us to repeal slavery, as one example.
Hyroglyphx writes:
Countries that leave other countries alone are generally left alone to prosper.
I don't understand why we Americans spend so much money on wars and on causes outside of our country, yet dont address our domestic problems first.

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Phat
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Message 18 of 112 (611837)
04-11-2011 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Buzsaw
04-11-2011 1:00 PM


Re: Jesus On Sharing
Buzsaw writes:
jar writes:
Buz tends to forget that Jesus would be definitely called a Socialist if not a Communist.
The difference is that Jesus's sharing agenda had nothing to do with government, nor was it obligatory. It was totally voluntary and applied only to individuals, his little group of apostles and later to churches.
Matthew 5:42 writes:
Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
Sometimes I wonder if this means more than just the church and, if so, if I am expected to literally give to all who ask.

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Phat
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Message 45 of 112 (611954)
04-12-2011 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Dr Adequate
04-12-2011 9:04 AM


Re: Jesus On Sharing
dr.adequate writes:
Nowadays a good Christian will of course vote to make it illegal. But of course he won't vote to make communism compulsory. Indeed, he will not voluntarily turn his own church into a communist society.
Um...isn't that going a bit too far? I don't see how being a communist nation would benefit my lot in life, nor that of my church. In fact, whom would it benefit??
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

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