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Larni
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Message 113 of 141 (543234)
01-16-2010 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by Shane20
01-16-2010 12:36 PM


Hi Shane, welcome to EvC!
My take on spirituality has always been that it is a meaningless word. As it stands it is just another form of woo that is an excuse for woolly minded people to spice up their world.
When you can demonstrate a spiritual side to reality then we can talk.
Edited by Larni, : Welcome

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Larni
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From: Liverpool
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Message 115 of 141 (543238)
01-16-2010 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by Shane20
01-16-2010 1:44 PM


We can prove that we have a variety of different beliefs in society all leaning towards the belief of another realm or existence.
B'ah. There was me spoiling for a fight and you have to go and be all reasonable about it.
Humans do have a tendency to explain part of their experience in terms of the non physical, don't they?
Gives me the right ump!
My take on it is that humans have a predisposition to infer intent in objects or occurrence. So, when a door stubs our toe we think 'bastard door!' or if it rains we think 'the weather hates me!'. (Even that sentence implies intent on behalf of the door).
As a kid I used to imbue my teddy bears with personality (I even talked for them as well as to them). I found it very easy to view them as a personality.
I forget where I read it but and experiment I recall from my undergrad days where kids where shown a cartoon of two circles bouncing around at random on a screen, one circle was larger than the other and the kids concluded that the bigger circle was 'bullying' the smaller one.
I conclude from this that they were ascribing a intent to the circle.
As we grow up we are logically aware that objects don't have personalities but we find it hard to shake the notion and this comes out in our belief in a non material component of the world.
As an aside when people start using 'energy' as in the context of spirituality I die a little inside.

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Larni
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From: Liverpool
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Message 141 of 141 (543301)
01-17-2010 5:58 AM
Reply to: Message 130 by Shane20
01-16-2010 7:56 PM


The argument is like saying how can you prove happiness with a smile?
No. This is not true. We can measure happiness.
We can't measure the spirit.
You will reach a dead end if you keep avoiding the need to demonstrate quantitatively the 'spirit'.

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