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Author Topic:   Are there any old Earth/old life creationionists/anti-evolutionists at evcforum.net?
Buzsaw
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Message 2 of 26 (542148)
01-07-2010 10:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Adminnemooseus
10-15-2009 10:18 PM


Re: Creationist Hypotheses
Hi Moose. I assume your question has to do with life on planet earth. If you mean life in the universe, imo there has eternally been life in the universe; lots of it. However, I do believe, and have said so, that the plant life would likely be older than all other life, the reason being that according to the Genesis record, plants came before the sun and moon. Evidently God provided a perfect amount of light via his Holy Spirit to prepare earth for life and sustain it until the sun and moon were created.
There are some creationists whom I have met who believe there was old life on earth before Adam including humans. I believe they have it that God wiped that life out and began anew with Eden. It's been a long time, so I'm not sure how that hypothesis goes.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 6 of 26 (542330)
01-08-2010 10:12 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Iblis
01-08-2010 7:15 PM


Re: Crreation Science
Iblis writes:
It has the advantage of being a real theory, rather than mere "creation science"
Hi Iblis. What folks here at EvC and in the majority of conventional science fora don't understand that creation science is more whole-istic than conventional science.
Creation science acknowledges and researches all observable evidences, including physical and metaphysical. What is observed is interpreted relative to corroborating all observable data by evaluating the credence of both the physical and the metaphysical.
Mainline majority science viewpoint enjoys the bully pulpit, proclaiming priority preference in popular peer publications, propagating prevailing opinions of persuasive people.
Web definition of metaphysics:
Metaphysics investigates principles of reality transcending those of any particular science.
The secularist humanist mindset rules out any living thing existing on earth, earth's atmosphere or in the cosmos not visible to the human eye. This mindset is naievely narrowminded. It's limited realm of science, in effect, assumes that the intelligence and the physiology of all living things in the universe are no greater than what we teeny tiny itty bitty specks of intelligence here on this miniscule speck of substance tucked within one of multiple hundreds of billions of galexies which we call the Milkey Way, the galexy, itself amounting to a mere dot in the whole of the universe, can observe with our earth-speck level of optical observation.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 8 of 26 (542351)
01-09-2010 9:05 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Minnemooseus
01-08-2010 10:14 PM


Re: Are there old Earth creationists at evcforum.net?
Minnemooseous writes:
We do seem to have anti-evolutionists who are not clearly young Earth creationists. I am curious, as to if there are members who adhere to the Hugh Ross position.
Hi Moose. I'm not sure, but methinks Phat comes the closest to that position here on this board. Perhaps he will weigh in here. Ross's position has become increasingly prevalent in some Christian colleges and universities the last half century. Houghton College, Houghton NY, here in upstate NY is one example. The young impressionable student sheeple are, thus, becoming increasingly more educated into that mindset.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 11 of 26 (542393)
01-09-2010 5:07 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by hooah212002
01-09-2010 11:43 AM


Re: Crreation Science
hooah writes:
There is a reason science "limits" itself to things we can see physically.
Hi Hooah. There are also reasons creation science whole-istically applies research to both physical and metaphysical data.
1. There is observable evidence for both physical and metaphysical phenomena, much of what I've cited in other threads.
2. There are logical and epistomological reasons to consider both physical and metaphysical phenomena in arriving at scientific conclusions.
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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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