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LudoRephaim
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Message 1 of 33 (476383)
07-23-2008 11:45 AM


Recently the radio shock jock Michael Savage made the statement that autism was a fraud and that most autistic children were brats who needed to be repremanded (sometimes physically) by their fathers.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,387662,00.html
Considering the junk I have had to deal with due to my autism as well as those of others and the facts about autism (seemingly ignored by numerous people), I conclude that Michael Savage doesn't know anything about medical science, legit science, or the experiences of the autistic. I have been very steamed at what he has stated, but I am trying to control what I write about the man; as a Christian I dont want to go into a viscious verbal assault on him.
The question I have for EVC bloggers is where do they stand on this issue? What do they believe? And how severe is the ignorance of Autism in this nation?
Edited by LudoRephaim, : No reason given.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Put upper case "S" into "savage" in topic title an elsewhere. Fixed a bunch of "I" while I was at it.

"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

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LudoRephaim
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Message 11 of 33 (476558)
07-24-2008 6:10 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Minnemooseus
07-23-2008 10:30 PM


Hmmm
Hi Minnemooseus.
It is strange how Michael savage seems to be trying to protect children and then at the same time call children diagnosed as autistic as "Idiots", Putzes" Morons" who have no Father in their life.
But of course this is not his only scienctific/moralfault; he also lambasts Global warming on his show with trick arguments. I would never trust him as a source for any paper for college or any book (unless the paper/book is on stupid statements).

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LudoRephaim
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Message 12 of 33 (476559)
07-24-2008 6:16 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by ramoss
07-23-2008 9:46 PM


I would not want him to child sit anybody, or even take care of pets.
I dont want the guy to even talk hehehe. You dont know how mad i was when i found out about it on CNN. I'm still steamed just thinking about it now. And its not like you can actually "Confront him" on his radio show; he has the power to tune you off from the hearers and blab his diatribes at you (well heard)and he does his best to bully you verbally in such a discussion (not letting you speak or answer his first so-called question while hurling numerous ones at you. Must be some type of logical fallacy.)
Its just like the "hero" of the Movie "Thank you for smoking" where he tells his son "That's the beauty of it; if you debate well, you're never wrong", the words of a spin doctor.

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Message 13 of 33 (476560)
07-24-2008 6:36 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Hyroglyphx
07-23-2008 11:50 PM


Re: Asbergers
I have a co-worker who i strongly suspect has aspergers Syndrome. The brass at my command has systematically tried to get him kicked out of the Coast Guard.
If he where diagnosed with Aspergers or some other form of autism, he could possibly get some legal protection from that kind of harassment. But then again i dont know for sure nor do i know the inner workings of the military.
I have some similarities to Asperger's syndrome even though i am diagnosed PDD-NOS (Not otherwise Specified). With Autism you can have problems with social skills (I have two books at home for Autistic people to do well in social envoronments). If he has some type of Autism, then such social problems combined with military life could cause some issues to arise.

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LudoRephaim
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Message 27 of 33 (476945)
07-28-2008 8:00 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Larni
07-25-2008 9:18 AM


Wood
I was always careful of saying questions like "would you do this, please?" as this would sometimes get interpreted as "Wodd, you do this please."
I have had those moments (one of which i wont go into here, but always sends my mother into laughter).
But then what can you expect from a know nothing know it all?
To have his mouth overload his rear lol.I'm surprised somebody hasn't beaen the tar out of him since starting his radio show.

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LudoRephaim
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Message 33 of 33 (477637)
08-05-2008 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Buzsaw
08-01-2008 9:49 PM


Re: A Savage Response
Savage recently had a profesional psychiatrist on who downsized savage's 90% to about 50% of alleged autism diagnoses as bogus. That' still very significant.
Only if the Psychiatrist is not a hack or on the fringe (lunatic fringe...?) and his views are backed up by the majority of his peers and the evidence. True, sometimes the minority view of some sciences has some merit (I could name a few, but i dont want this debate to get sidetracked. Can look at the Bigfoot thread though for one, but please all stay on topic), but they actually go by true evidence, and unless this shrink has it (and not something cooked up by Savage and some conservatve thinktank who want people like me locked up in loonry bins or get no help whatsoever)then it is bogus. We need to see a peer reviewed source that backs up this person's claims, one that is not heavily challenged by otghers.
As i've contended, Savage is no dummy, though in this case, perhaps he exaggerated the extent of the problem
What you call an exaggeration, i call a slap in the face.
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