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Message 39 of 63 (456058)
02-15-2008 8:56 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Raphael
02-14-2008 11:07 PM


Re: All Scripture is God Breathed and Profitable
How can Jesus be before Mary was born?
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DL

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Message 41 of 63 (456106)
02-15-2008 2:06 PM
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02-15-2008 1:56 PM


Re: All Scripture is God Breathed and Profitable
So passing throught Mary was His second trip or His first?
Why would He need Mary in the first or second place?
Was there two of Jesus for 9 months?
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DL
Edited by Greatest I am, : No reason given.

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Message 43 of 63 (456207)
02-16-2008 10:26 AM
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02-15-2008 2:09 PM


Re: All Scripture is God Breathed and Profitable
Does that mean that the trinity was only twonity for 9 months.
Not to just have fun here but you see the awkwardness of giving Jesus divinity. You have to twist logic to an unrecognizable form.
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DL

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Message 47 of 63 (456331)
02-17-2008 9:18 AM
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02-17-2008 4:33 AM


Re: Which Came First?
Phat
Just noticed your new picture. Cute.
I disagree with your statement.
Without man God has 0 authority. It is we who recognize this God or that God. We have dominion over the whole concept of God. We define Him.
The same goes for Jesus.
The problem gets even worse for Jesus. Here we have to not only define His human attributes but also His divine ones and try to dither out how this new hybrid God can die like some poor human schnook.
Plus imagine a huge sacrifice for mankind when all He did was sleep for three days.
The concept of God was crested by man. His mind was inspired by something (inspired) but we are still defining what God is or we all would not be in this place. We seek as we always have with the changing times to improve our notions of what God represents.
If we are truly in His image then you and I do not think as the ancients did.
Our God cannot be the same God that they saw.
This is why the Bibles have a hard time with our new view of slaves, women and Gays.
Let us continue to improve God to our new image.
The ancients knew that God had to grow and change. This is why they did not give God a name and asked us to not follow false idols.
God is dead. Long live God
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DL

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Message 48 of 63 (456332)
02-17-2008 9:22 AM
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02-17-2008 9:09 AM


Probably for the same reason that the followers of Moses built the cow. They needed a physical manifestation to strengthen their beliefs. I think.
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DL

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Message 50 of 63 (456365)
02-17-2008 1:18 PM
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02-17-2008 9:28 AM


I agree.
Phat
If the godhead is made up of men's souls then it is very possible that What we call God is a consolidation of these souls with no actual head of heaven.
God may be the issue of a cosmic consciousness.
This would allow for God to evolve along with men.
If He does not then when we die all that we are is lost to the universe and God is a stagnant entity. If that is the case then we may as well all be atheists. Their version of reality would be closer to the truth.
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DL

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Message 53 of 63 (457408)
02-23-2008 9:04 AM
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02-23-2008 6:46 AM


Thanks for the previous. Rather good.
I would wonder then why women are so under represented in discussion and leadership within religion. They are sorely needed if they are truly wiser than men.
As to when God began, If we are in his image then there is a connection. He tells us that He is like us. If so then we must have been around for His template.
Did He really have true intellectual substance before we were here to recognize Him.
Would He need to develop morals and ethics in a reality that had no one to appreciate or need it?
If He was everything in the beginning and our souls joined with Him, in the melding type of way, then the original form is no longer.
God like us can then be said to evolve. To make God a stagnant entity would mean that we at our death have 0 influence or impact on the Godhead. We may as well be atheists if we believe that we just evaporate to nothing and have no effect on God.
He may have created man just for this reason. To evolve. Stagnation may have become boring.
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DL

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Message 56 of 63 (457469)
02-23-2008 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by IamJoseph
02-23-2008 2:06 PM


Last time I checked it took two humans a male and a female to multiply.
In value I would give each 50 - 50 in value.
Now if you had to start a new tribe a pregnant female might have an advantage if she were pregnant with a male inside.
If all there was in the beginning was God then He had to change the status quo when He created the universe and us.
It can then be said that God changed or evolved.
If He could not we would not be here and we would have no meaning to Him after our death.
God evolves at all times. So does man.
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DL

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Message 57 of 63 (457471)
02-23-2008 4:46 PM


Prophecy
If God must fulfill prophecy, then what of His free will.
If He has to work to some given timetable then His free will is compromised.
This cannot happen.
Thus prophecies cannot be true.
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DL

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Message 61 of 63 (460092)
03-12-2008 4:53 PM
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03-12-2008 9:12 AM


Let's pray that this new era starts quickly. It's getting hot as hell.
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DL

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Message 63 of 63 (460176)
03-13-2008 7:06 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by pelican
03-13-2008 2:21 AM


We have learned the lesson that they carried for us. It is time to maove on.
We have learned all we can from the old Christians. It is time to move on.
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DL

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