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tesla
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Message 9 of 67 (459602)
03-08-2008 7:29 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by AZPaul3
03-08-2008 3:40 PM


i predict
if Clinton wins the nomination, more than likely McCain will become resident. i have always been democratic by nature, but have voted republican because i have been a conservative, and too many of the democrats against the republican nominations have been so liberal they throw even morality to the dogs.
Obama however is very straight forward. i am enthusiastic about his views on gun control. well more to the point, his backing of the right to bear arms, as well as his proposal to kill the IRS. which would make this nation much richer and strengthen our dollar, which would strengthen our economy on the global platform.
i will not vote for a woman in politics because I'm a conservative. and a woman has their place in the world, and things they are better suited for than men. but men were made to rule. and their minds are set to consider things in this fashion. a woman is made to rule man. but the man to make the final decision. so i will not vote for Hilary if she wins the nomination.
as a whole, the US is not ready for a woman president i dont believe. the political primaries that show her winning only shows the population of democrats that support her. but taking into consideration that obama's name, or other potential candidates names, were not even on ballots to choose, therefore many (including me) did not bother to even vote in these primaries. and then ;looking at the republican base that supports McCain (i also would support McCain, and I'm a Democrat)you'll find that the majority of the US would rather support a conservative president with a desire and force of will to make changes for the better of the country.
here i feel is the greatest needs facing the candidate by the desire of the people:
1: change
(health care, trade, war, economy, etc)
2: moral conservation
if a candidate was to hit these issues correctly, they would win the election fairly effectively. IMO.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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Message 11 of 67 (459605)
03-08-2008 7:43 PM
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03-08-2008 7:38 PM


Re: i predict
lol i know it call me lazy or unschooled, i type with two fingers and shifting just causes me so many typos i just say to hell with it.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
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tesla
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Message 14 of 67 (459610)
03-08-2008 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Granny Magda
03-08-2008 7:56 PM


Re: i predict
race does have an effect on thought process, but not like gender.
a woman is more caring, but men more logically cold. sometimes the best course of action is not the emotionally desired decision. women are more inclined to react emotionally than a man. its just our natures. there are exceptions, but given Clinton's antics towards obama of slander, i would say she is a perfect representation of how a woman's emotions can override a cooler logic.
(as a whole)today people have less depth. its rare for a discussion of politics and religion and philosophy to be a normal occurrence. most times its money, relationships, or simplistic event memories over a beer and a hoot of " why do you drink?" this lack of depth and narcissism which has been promoted by society has allowed people to take less serious consideration of dangerous decisions and the narcissism leads to ignoring the next generations needs until its going to slap them in the face politically, or in their time.
because of this now broad view of the people candidates and voters both, would now allow a woman as a president. especially since the family structure is now a string of divorce, so essentially, "nothing is certain" has become a foundation for even what we used to have in "marriage". and mostly this is due to our becoming a more and more selfish and narcissistic society.
however, the family institution is not yet completely destroyed, and as a whole, the population will most likely not rally behind a female candidate.
Edited by tesla, : do=due

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
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tesla
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Message 17 of 67 (459614)
03-08-2008 8:51 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Granny Magda
03-08-2008 8:41 PM


Re: i predict
then lets agree to disagree. because im a conservative christian and your not. i do not believe a woman's place is just in sweeping and cleaning. men also do this. but i dont believe it is a wise decision to have a woman rule a nation. and I'm sure many would agree.
a woman is more caring, but men more logically cold.
Again, this is just your opinion. There is no evidence for this, it's just your excuse for bigotry.
I'm not a bigot. i just dont believe its wise for a woman to be in such a position of power as the presidency due to a woman's natural tendencies. if you call that bigotry, then as you see it it is true to you.
if Clinton wins the nomination in America, Mccain will most likely be president because of a large majority conventional base.(question is, who will bother to vote?) if democrats loose this presidency, it will be because of their own inability to properly judge the needs and desires and minds of the population as a whole, Obama has a very strong chance against McCain. even amongst conservative Christians.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
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Message 19 of 67 (459616)
03-08-2008 8:58 PM
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03-08-2008 8:53 PM


Re: i predict
i figured that wording would bring that as a possibility in readers minds, but no; i meant "our" as man's vs woman's inclinations by mental structure.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
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Message 21 of 67 (459618)
03-08-2008 9:07 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Granny Magda
03-08-2008 9:05 PM


Re: i predict
Women in power , who i have worked under, make good financial decisions. but when they have power they tend to act more like a mother to all, than like a ruler of a man.
super-mommy says wear your seat-belt, don't look at girls butts, and dont smoke cigarettes.
but mister dad Say's , son, i understand you have a decision in these things, but ill tell you what i believe is best for you, and the laws i do set for you you must obey for the good of the whole, but still you are a man, and have your own decisions to make concerning issues that are no one else's business.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
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tesla
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Message 23 of 67 (459620)
03-08-2008 9:10 PM
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03-08-2008 9:07 PM


Re: i predict
yes it can. but read the post above yours. i don't want any more laws taking away basic freedoms. one day it could be quite possible that a law is set to have a bathmat in all tubs because you could slip and fall.
we live in a country where at the age of 18 you can die for your country, but not buy a beer.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
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tesla
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Message 27 of 67 (459626)
03-08-2008 9:31 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by fallacycop
03-08-2008 9:19 PM


Re: i predict
Hilary is a mom style woman. she appeals to emotional needs. its a popular antic, but probably can turn into a nightmare in political decision making.(IMO)
the way our government is set up there are cushions in place to curve some of the potential disaster, but with what I've seen happen with Bush, i now know the cushions are not really all that effective.
some women may be fit to take advice better, but i havent seen where Hilary has displayed this. she has a lot of ambition, but that can be dangerous if not put in perspective.
this country is on a dangerous trend. to many Americans have strong opposing views, anda nation divided cannot stand.
did you know that 30% of americans cannot afford food and rely on assistance? regardless of a woman or man leading the republic as a whole is full of corruption. but even still, i will not vote for a woman leader. i believe a woman in power will only further divide an already divided nation.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
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tesla
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Message 29 of 67 (459630)
03-08-2008 10:01 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Taz
03-08-2008 9:56 PM


Re: i predict
ROFLMAO
*hugz taz*
Sorry mate, I can play guitar effectively, but every attempt at typing tutors has left me throwing my keyboard across the room in frustration.
I will attempt to get in the habit of using the shift key more often

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
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tesla
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Message 55 of 67 (460345)
03-14-2008 10:20 AM
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03-14-2008 8:20 AM


Re: i predict
You mean like just hittin caps lock?
I can type pretty fast, but most of my typing experience was in an online game. And capitols were never necessary. Just being able to understand what spouts out lol.
So my shift impairment is mostly habit. I type as the thoughts hit me, and then after review, i go back and have to capitalize all the sentences.
I always did well in reading and writing. But i NEVER did well in grammar. Punctuation and sentence structure i could use great improvement. But i have other things in my life that take precedent. It is very unlikely ill ever be in a position where it will even matter. I am attempting improvement here because it as been asked of me. But ill probably never be "spot on".

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
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tesla
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Message 58 of 67 (460404)
03-14-2008 6:17 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by Dr Jack
03-14-2008 1:03 PM


Re: i predict
ah i see
If it is a program, I probably wont download it. My computer is fickle. The motherboard is newer than my software and i have glitches on the account of it. I use older software because i need a win proxy full of holes to make an online game work effectively sharing 2 PCs on a dial up 22k down 9k up connection.
But i do appreciate your help and suggestion Thanks again
Edited by tesla, : spelcheck. <~~~erm spellcheck.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 66 of 67 (489434)
11-27-2008 1:45 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by kuresu
11-15-2008 5:57 AM


Re: drinking age
However, there is an important caveat. If you are in the military, and under 21 (but over 18), you can drink. Granted, you have to buy the alcohol on base (if I understand correctly). So yes, you can die and drink at 18, but you have to be in the military.
When your country no longer tells you that you have to die for it, but asks, it's a little ridiculous to make your statement.
i was simply pointing out that little restrictions open the door to greater restriction. i am not suggesting deregulation of everything.
lets go back to the drinking age example. i know that you can set the age to 21, and have less problems in society because of maturity levels. now, we could argue that a person can be 45 and have the maturity of the average 17 year old, and that you have those that are 17 that have a maturity level closer to the common maturity levels of 35 year olds. but its useless because what is the average maturity level for being able to drink responsibly is well past the age of 21.
the argument is more about at what age do we allow citizens to be considered free adults, with the capacity to make their own judgements? if you ask many lawmakers, they may reply: "never".
it is my opinion, that the leaders of our society consider the free people of this nation incapable of makeing descisions for themselves, if they differ from the lawmakers opinion of what we should be allowed to do, or not do.
for instance, the seatbelt law, which is the issue im really most annoyed with, is valid in the eyes of many, because lives are saved. but we could save lives if we stopped playing fotball too. or skydiving. or any other dangerous sport that boasts a high injury or death rate. but people must die for our planet, or our race of man to survive. the planet will not get larger as we grow in population. its rescources shrink as we grow. eventually, as we live longer, we will destroy the balance of the planet and will end in either: mass deaths from starvation, war, crime, and natural disaters and desease. or; the populations of the planet will be limited similiar to china. in that a couple may only have 1 child.
now i am bothered with the need for such an act to befall this planet. either the former or the latter, and would hope instead a slow down in population growths, to be a little less or equal to the global population (balanced). the rate we die, is just as important. but none more important than HOW we die. if by our own discision, be it foolish, or unlucky, then it is our death and not murder. and if in no danger to another, we should be allowed to decide the risk for ourselves.
that is a freedom. i believe i should have. to play football. to go skydiving. to parachute off buildings or cliffs. to drive my car without wearing a seatbelt. IF it is MY car. the exeption to the rule, should only be if children are in the vehichle. then the adults and the children should be in seatbelts. because the children do not have the capacity to make the descision themselves, and the adult if not in a seatbelt could bounce around and hurt children who are in their seatbelts, if the adult is not in theirs in the event of a wreck. the justification here, is the childrens lives would be put in danger if the adult was not in a seatbelt and i can see the law in that, justifgied.
again tho, for a single driver, being grown, should have his/her own choice when no others are in any danger.
i just fear what our society is going to be like 40 years from now. when everywhere you step youll vbe on a camera. spy devices for sound and heat vision devices become as common as a watch, and we the people of america at the mercy of a goverment we no longer have the ability to combat in the event we lose control over it. thats all.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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