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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2672 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Oh, RAZD.
That's nothing. Check this out.
"I feel homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk," Huckabee wrote in the (1992) questionnaire for The Associated Press, which reported the answer on Saturday. "In light of the extraordinary funds already being given for AIDS research, it does not seem that additional federal spending can be justified," Huckabee wrote, according to the AP. "An alternative would be to request that multimillionaire celebrities, such as Elizabeth Taylor, Madonna and others who are pushing for more AIDS funding be encouraged to give out of their own personal treasuries increased amounts for AIDS research." "If the federal government is truly serious about doing something with the AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers of this plague.... It is difficult to understand the public policy towards AIDS. It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the carriers of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general population, and in which this deadly disease for which there is no cure is being treated as a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it represents." Huckabee called homosexuality 'sinful' - POLITICO Yup. You read right. Quarantine.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2672 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
The fear of what bigots would do with the information, has superceded the reality that at the very least IDENTIFYING carriers is the most important thing we should be doing. Really. Please provide: 1. Information re: the state "publicly branding" carriers of a communicable disease (within last 50 years in the United States). Note: A single example (Andrew Speaker and MDR-TB) is not sufficient. 2. Information re: the state identifying and tracking carriers of a communicable disease (within last 50 years in the United States). Note: Epidemiological tracking is not sufficient. That is at the community level. I mean at the individual level. 3. A definition of "civil rights" and how this relates to medical privacy. I will start a new thread where you can post your answer.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2672 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Look. Buz. Let's not play dueling bibles, kay?
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die. Deuteronomy 13:6-10 There's more where that came from.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2672 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
It never takes long for a creationist to reach for the Hitler analogy.
According to the Koran, so does it's author, Mohammed, originator of Islam who by violence forced over 200 religions out of Mecca to allow only his Allah god religion. Xtians, protestant xians, have done the same. Prior to 1492, over 40 million North American people (with around 1800 religions) were slaughtered and/or "converted" by protestant xians. Around the same time, both protestant and catholic "missionaries" to South America made quick work of the thousands of native religions and millions of native peoples there as well. Same story for the Caribbean. Same story for Africa. Same story for India. Same story for Asia. Same story for the South Pacific. Same story for Australia. Same story for the Arctic. I think y'all missed the Antarctic ... but still and all ... I think y'all got Hitler beat.
... the reason a Roman Catholic was not in the White House for nearly 2 centuries in America was for the same reason, a history including violence and religious persecution by Vatican hierarchy, including extermination against segments of the citizenry. I'm calling bullshit on this one. Care to provide a cite from a reputable historian? (Given that you've had over 2 months to produce the Deborah Ray cites, I'm not gonna hold my breath.)
Again, my point is the risk factor ... You have yet to show that Islam is a greater threat than xianity. Provide historic proof of Islamic folks slaughtering and/or converting:South American natives. North American natives. Caribbean natives. Asians. Australians. Inuit.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2672 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
H, I have no interest whatsoever in discussing much of anything with you.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2672 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Really?
Because I've always been particularly fond of Chumbawamba's Mouthful of Shit myself, Juggs. It brings me such fond memories of your posts when I hear it.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2672 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Exactly right. The brutality and/or benevolence of any religion is going to be based on societal norms. Christian Catholics in 18th century South America were brutal; Christian Quakers in 19th century North America were instrumental in the Abolitionist movement. Muslims in Afghanistan want to impose Sharia law; Muslims in Turkey are committed to secularism. OMG, Chi. Touché. What a brilliant analogy. My respect for you grows day by day.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2672 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Furthermore many of the occupants when it was set up were transient nomadic herdsmen who had no certain dwelling. OMFNG! Best! Creo! Post! Evar! Yeah. Those pesky transient nomadic tribesmen who have no certain dwelling. You know, Buzter, you would have done very, very well in 15th century North America (on the side of your xian brethren I mean).
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2672 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
My point by the quote was the anti-Semitism and militant radicalism of Obama's key mentor and the false notion of his mentor that Israel should receive no support. You know, Buzkins, Senator Obama's mentor in the Senate is Senator Lieberman. Here's a summary of Senator Lieberman's position on Israel:
"It is a tribute to a senator who seems to be choosing to use his unique position as America’s most prominent Jew to send a message that being pro-Israel does not require being anti-Palestinian." "What Lieberman did, which was heartening, was address issues related to Israelis and Palestinians in a manner we have not come to expect from politicians. He told Israelis that there was no alternative to getting back to negotiations. He went to Ramallah to say that he favors “a free and secure Palestine” alongside a free and secure Israel. He said that within Congress there is “strong support for the aspirations of the Palestinian people for independent statehood . .” And he challenged the Palestinians to produce the “sufficient leadership” to get that state established “sooner rather than later.” Touring Ramallah with Palestinian officials, a clearly upset Lieberman said that there are “desperate humanitarian conditions here” which must be addressed, and he wants the Bush administration to start providing more humanitarian aid." I tell you what. Let's round up all of Senator Obama's mentors and count up those that you think are pro-Israel and those that you think are anti-Israel. Then let's add up all the pro-Isrealites and all the anti-Israelites. Then we'll know exactly what Senator Obama thinks! -- Here is what Senator Obama had to say of his experiences at UCC:
"Kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side, I felt that I heard God's spirit beckoning me," Obama said last year, recalling the altar call at Wright's church. "I submitted myself to his will and dedicated myself to discovering his truth." Yep. That there is a gotnam mooslem terrist iffn I ever did see one.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2672 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
1. He thinks that scientists believe the earth is "six billion" years old. He also thinks we "just don't know" how old the earth is. 2. He covered up an incident where his son tortured & hanged a stray dog. 3. He lied about having a theology degree. 4. He claims ””The Holy Bible . . . has truth, without any mixture of error, for its matter. Therefore, all Scripture is totally true and trustworthy.’’ 5. In 1992, he wanted to quarantine people with AIDS, even though it was well-known then that AIDS could not be spread by casual contact. 6. He improperly claimed furniture given to the governor's office as a personal gift and then didn't list it on an inventory of office items. 7. He freed criminals who committed heinous offenses if they said they had become born-again. 8. He wants a regressive national sales tax in place of a progressive income tax. 9. In 1998, he signed a statement saying that "A wife is to submit graciously to the servant leadership of her husband". 10. He doesn't accept the theory of evolution. Links to all ten stories found here: Recursivity: Ten Reasons Not to Vote for Huckabee Item #7 got a lot of press here in Missouri, as the born-again-serial-rapist took all of 6 weeks after his release to kill a Missouri woman (in a very small town only 4 miles from where I grew up).
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2672 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Kuresu,
By "slaughtered" I included the diseases we brought with us. That goes for North and South America. The "prior" thing was a boo-boo. In my careless editing, I cut out "lived here" (but didn't cut it out of the South America sentence).
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