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ILoveGod Member (Idle past 6035 days) Posts: 29 Joined: |
wow, Christianity is not a cult, it is not even a religion, is it reality I am so sorry that you have believed what the world has brainwashed you into believing, but it has definately not the truth. Next time someone tells you that humanity evolved from monkeys or that there is no supreme being, or that the "big bang" is true, just ask them. To tell you step by every step how each event occurred, and ask for the scientifically required hard evidence to prove each step. and when you find out that no one on earth can do that, ask them why they believe and tell people to believe such a ridiculous scientific "theory" without having all the facts. True science and God have no conflict, it is the ridiculous theories that have conflict with the Truth who is God, your Creator and your closest relative, who made you, your parents, and everyone else.
with much love,Cliff Harris
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ILoveGod Member (Idle past 6035 days) Posts: 29 Joined: |
wow, Christianity is not a cult, it is not even a religion, is it reality I am so sorry that you have believed what the world has brainwashed you into believing, but it has definately not the truth. Next time someone tells you that humanity evolved from monkeys or that there is no supreme being, or that the "big bang" is true, just ask them. To tell you step by every step how each event occurred, and ask for the scientifically required hard evidence to prove each step. and when you find out that no one on earth can do that, ask them why they believe and tell people to believe such a ridiculous scientific "theory" without having all the facts. True science and God have no conflict, it is the ridiculous theories that have conflict with the Truth who is God, your Creator and your closest relative, who made you, your parents, and everyone else.
with much love,Cliff Harris
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ILoveGod Member (Idle past 6035 days) Posts: 29 Joined: |
Actually God keeping His Word pure and available to the world fullfills what Jesus said when He said,
Matthew 24:35 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away." And also Jesus said in Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world" Such a claim not only being made, but being made and actually happening!having happened! And just think, the romans Cruficified Jesus, and 400 years later, the entire roman empire fell down worshipping at His feet, in the Holy Roman Empire! And there are over 1000 prophesies in the Bible that have come true, exactly as God said they would. Including Jesus being crucified Psalm 22, Jesus bringing salvation to the world Isaiah 53, and Jesus being born of a virgiin Isaiah chapter 7 verse 10. with much love,Cliff Harris
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ILoveGod Member (Idle past 6035 days) Posts: 29 Joined: |
The ones i was speaking of was the 10
not the on with more then 10 The 10 commandments were the ones that came with the old covenant to the Hebrews, which was if they keep those, then they will be God's people. Christians have only 2 commandments and these 2 sum up of the 10 commandments. with much love,Cliff Harris
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gen Member (Idle past 6010 days) Posts: 78 Joined: |
I brought up the question of the world being round because of faith. I bet you believe it is, but have you ever been around it to see for yourself? Maybe you have. But there are thousands, if not millions of other examples of faith in the universe. 'Faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.' Hebrews 11:1. I am sure you have faith.
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gen Member (Idle past 6010 days) Posts: 78 Joined: |
Jesus clearly states in Matthew 24 that he is talking about the Second Coming
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petrophysics1 Inactive Member |
just ask them. To tell you step by every step how each event occurred, and ask for the scientifically required hard evidence to prove each step. OK, I'll follow your advice. 1.) There's a "theory" going around that God wrote the bible. Scientifically prove it. Please explain each step of how God did this in detail and your evidence for it. 2.) There's a "theory" going around that God exists. Scientifically prove it. Explain all you steps and evidence. 3.) You have said a number of times "Jesus said". However I am not aware of any book that Jesus wrote so you must really be saying someone said that Jesus said. Is this correct? Also if what Jesus had to say was so important WHY didn't he write it down? To answer these questions I do not consider the following psychological expierence described by William James to be of any value in answering 1 through 3. So make sure you don't use it! a. you sense there is a higher control or power behind realityb. you feel a oneness with the world and nature c. you realize profound "truths" you did not realize before d. everything looks new, alive, and beautiful e. you are overwhelmed with happiness and ectasy f. all of your worries fall away g. you cannot express this experience in words h. you are ABSOLUTELY certain about the importance of this experience Note "truths" under c, not real truths, you just think they are. I got the above expierence here:http://www-usr.rider.edu/~suler/religexp.html You might read it before you answer.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5938 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
ILoveGod
The ones i was speaking of was the 10 not the on with more then 10 Well that is just the problem ILG since they both go on to declare further actions that are to be taken and followed by the people. So is it now the ones that are listed in exodus 20 and in subsequent chapters or is it the ones in exodus 34 and so on? God does not exist until there is proof he does.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
wow, Christianity is not a cult, it is not even a religion, is it reality Sorry but I am a Christian and I know that it is a religion, the Evolution is fact, that there was something like the Big Bang. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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iceage  Suspended Member (Idle past 5945 days) Posts: 1024 From: Pacific Northwest Joined: |
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Edited by iceage, : No reason given. Edited by iceage, : Double Post
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iceage  Suspended Member (Idle past 5945 days) Posts: 1024 From: Pacific Northwest Joined: |
ilovegod writes: If you want to play the "research from any uncredited website" we can also assume elvis presly never was killed, britney spears is part of a conspiracy to overthrow the world, and crop circles are the result of evolved aliens. The website I referenced provided actual data!!! Not rumor or unsupported claims. There are others sources, however I suspect you would rather deal in dishonesty and deceit. As evidence of your bad faith approach I submit your unsupported claim and your blustering condescending defense above. I merely asked you back up your claim....
ilovegod writes: And the accuracy of the Bible is amazing, there were scrolls containing old testament books knows as the dead sea scrolls which are scientifically dated centuries before Jesus's birth, which are exactly the same as the old testament we translate the Bible from today except for like 7 words and 14 letters, which mean the same thing as what we have for them This is absolutely not true! And easy to verify with little effort. You need to back this claim up with references and/or scholarship or retract the statement.
ilovegod writes: But then I'd hope we can come back to reality, further our discussion Let's further the discussion and work in reality and truth and not unsupported claims, Christian urban legends and untruths. Edited by iceage, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
gen writes: I brought up the question of the world being round because of faith. I bet you believe it is, but have you ever been around it to see for yourself? We don't need to go around the world to "see for ourselves". A more reliable way of determining whether or not the earth is round (or whether or not the Bible was man-made) is to look at the evidence that others have compiled. We don't have "faith" in their conclusions. We have trust in their methodology.
'Faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.' Hebrews 11:1 Hope is for the future, not the past. Faith is for what we do not see, not for explaining away what we do see. We have knowledge about the shape of the earth and the history of the Bible. Faith that disagrees with knowledge is misplaced. “Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place” -- Joseph Goebbels ------------- Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: Which doesn't change the fact that he is primarily talking about the destruction of the Herodian Temple. And the Second Coming hasn't happened today either. Let me give you some advice. Before trying to argue based on Biblical passage go away and read it, carefully, in context. If you manage to do that you should make fewer embarrassing mistakes.
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ILoveGod Member (Idle past 6035 days) Posts: 29 Joined: |
Exodus 20.
And your answer is ridiculous. Here is your logic.By your own statement you say it is ok for people to 1: Steal from you2: have sex with your wife behind your back 3: murder your family 4: bare witness against you for things you never did no matter how much trouble you get in to. 5: sit around thinking of ways they can have what belongs to you 6: take control of your children, and have your kids respect those people instead. Which of these would u say God is wrong for telliing people not to do? with much love,Cliff Harris
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So, ILoveGod, as with the "Ten Commandments" there are two of you?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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