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Author Topic:   The Bible was NOT man made, it was Godly made
ILoveGod
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Message 271 of 320 (429216)
10-18-2007 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 264 by jar
10-14-2007 12:03 PM


Re: spurious is a poor choice of wording.
No. Religion is a man made of perception of what they want to have after they die.
Reality is that God made all of us and everything in existance.
Reality is God sent Jesus into the world to save us.
Reality is evolution is a fairy tale with so many ridiculous assumptions in it it doesn't even have a leg to stand on. The only reason anyone who has actually looked it closely and still believes in evolution is because it is the only thing that can let them believe there is no God, and therefore they can be their own God and keep doing evil because in their mind they will never have to be held accountable for their actions.

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ILoveGod
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Message 272 of 320 (429218)
10-18-2007 9:06 PM
Reply to: Message 270 by jar
10-18-2007 8:59 PM


Re: spurious is a poor choice of wording.
No I lost my password for my other account, and all i could find in my juno email was this account information.
And the 10 commandments are the 10 commandments.
Christians however only have 2. Which cover all the rest.
And these are to love God with all of our heart mind and body, and second to that is to love eachother as we love ourselves.

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jar
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Message 273 of 320 (429219)
10-18-2007 9:10 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by ILoveGod
10-18-2007 9:01 PM


Re: spurious is a poor choice of wording.
Lots of unsupported assertions ILoveGod.
The only reason anyone who has actually looked it closely and still believes in evolution is because it is the only thing that can let them believe there is no God, and therefore they can be their own God and keep doing evil because in their mind they will never have to be held accountable for their actions.
Totally false assertion that has already been shown to be wrong. I am a Christian, believe in God and that the Theory of Evolution is the best explanation of what is seen.
You need to stop posting things that have already been shown to be false or just keep making Christians look stupid.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Chiroptera
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Message 274 of 320 (429220)
10-18-2007 9:11 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by ILoveGod
10-18-2007 9:01 PM


Hey, Cliff! I started a thread for you!
Hi, Cliff, and welcome to EvC.
The only reason anyone who has actually looked it closely and still believes in evolution is because it is the only thing that can let them believe there is no God, and therefore they can be their own God and keep doing evil because in their mind they will never have to be held accountable for their actions.
Actually, this is false. For one, I don't need to believe in evolution to be an atheist. I would remain an atheist even if the theory of evolution were proven to be totally false.
For another, I consider myself accountable for my actions even though I don't believe that there is a god.
But this is off-topic for this thread. Some time ago, I started a thread so that theists can explain what they think motivates atheists to believe what they do, and why they think they understand atheists. That would be a better place for this discussion, don't you think? I'm looking forward to your input in that thread.

In many respects, the Bible was the world's first Wikipedia article. -- Doug Brown (quoted by Carlin Romano in The Chronicle Review)

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jar
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Message 275 of 320 (429222)
10-18-2007 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 272 by ILoveGod
10-18-2007 9:06 PM


Re: spurious is a poor choice of wording.
Well contact an Admin and have them merge your accounts. Posting under more than one account is a violation of forum rules.
And also, try to address the topic.
In case you missed it, the topic is "The Bible was NOT man made, it was Godly made".
Evolution is irrelevant.
The Ten Commandments are irrelevant.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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ILoveGod
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Message 276 of 320 (429223)
10-18-2007 9:14 PM
Reply to: Message 274 by Chiroptera
10-18-2007 9:11 PM


Re: Hey, Cliff! I started a thread for you!
thank you but i was replying to a post on this thread.
And without your ridiculous idea of evolution, plz tell me how an athiest like u would explain how we got here without God?
the fact is I am 100% right in what i said
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Message 277 of 320 (429226)
10-18-2007 9:29 PM
Reply to: Message 272 by ILoveGod
10-18-2007 9:06 PM


Cliff and ILoveGod ID's have been merged
The Cliff and ILoveGod ID's have been merged. The primary alias is Cliff, and the profile including password is that of Cliff.
Cliff, you can change back to the ILoveGod alias my editing your profile (See "Profile" link at the topic of most pages). You can also change your password and/or e-mail address there. If you change your e-mail address, make sure the new address is valid as a new password will be sent to that address.
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ILoveGod
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Message 278 of 320 (429227)
10-18-2007 9:35 PM
Reply to: Message 277 by Adminnemooseus
10-18-2007 9:29 PM


Re: Cliff and ILoveGod ID's have been merged
thanks but I'd much rather have ILoveGod as my primary.
And no one is really an idiot, they are just completely mislead into believing things like a little monkey is their ancestor, and once upon a time a bunch of absolutely nothing exploded, and became monkeys building scyscrapers and programming computers.
{Primary alias changed to "ILoveGod". - Adminnemooseus}
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Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Changed alias note.

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jar
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Message 279 of 320 (429229)
10-18-2007 9:40 PM
Reply to: Message 278 by ILoveGod
10-18-2007 9:35 PM


Re: Cliff and ILoveGod ID's have been merged
And no one is really an idiot, they are just completely mislead into believing things like a little monkey is their ancestor, and once upon a time a bunch of absolutely nothing exploded, and became monkeys building scyscrapers and programming computers.
Still off topic, irrelevant and of no importance.
The topic, in case you missed it is "The Bible was NOT man made, it was Godly made", do you have anything relevant to post?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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ILoveGod
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Message 280 of 320 (429231)
10-18-2007 9:43 PM
Reply to: Message 279 by jar
10-18-2007 9:40 PM


Re: Cliff and ILoveGod ID's have been merged
lol wow, this is completely over your head. I am sorry. What I said was that the only thing that anyone has scientifically against the Bible is the ridiculous theory - yes THEORY (an idea without enough evidence to make it a fact) of evolution. This is the grounds for athiests who say the Bible is not real. And without that ridiculous idea, they have no grounds for saying the Bible is not real. And real meaning made by God.
In Genesis God made Adam and Eve at a full grown mature age. Not children first, then adults, simply adults. When Jesus turned water into wine, He didn't turn the water into grapejuice first, and then wine, but Wine which is aged grapejuice. The point is that God also made the Earth at a mature age. This is why you can look at it all day long with a carbon dating and say it is millions of years old. Likewise you could so the same with Adam and say He was 20 or 30 years old. But God created both on the spot as a mature age.
ok there
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jar
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Message 281 of 320 (429232)
10-18-2007 9:49 PM
Reply to: Message 280 by ILoveGod
10-18-2007 9:43 PM


Heading towards the topic.
lol wow, this is completely over your head. I am sorry. What I said was that the only thing that anyone has scientifically against the Bible is the ridiculous theory - yes THEORY (an idea without enough evidence to make it a fact) of evolution. This is the grounds for athiests who say the Bible is not real. And without that ridiculous idea, they have no grounds for saying the Bible is not real. And real meaning made by God
understand?
Uh, no I do not understand.
Do you have anything related to the topic?
I am not an atheist. I believe in God. I am a Christian. I know that the Bible is man made.
I have presented that evidence in this thread.
Do you have anything to support your position other than unsupported assertions that have been proven false already?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Chiroptera
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Message 282 of 320 (429233)
10-18-2007 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 276 by ILoveGod
10-18-2007 9:14 PM


Re: Hey, Cliff! I started a thread for you!
And without your ridiculous idea of evolution, plz tell me how an athiest like u would explain how we got here without God?
That isn't the topic for this thread.
I will just say that the theory of evolution is in no way important to me as an atheist.
Further discussion will have to take place in an appropriate thread.

In many respects, the Bible was the world's first Wikipedia article. -- Doug Brown (quoted by Carlin Romano in The Chronicle Review)

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jar
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Message 283 of 320 (429234)
10-18-2007 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 280 by ILoveGod
10-18-2007 9:43 PM


Making God out to be a liar and cheat
In Genesis God made Adam and Eve at a full grown mature age. Not children first, then adults, simply adults. When Jesus turned water into wine, He didn't turn the water into grapejuice first, and then wine, but Wine which is aged grapejuice. The point is that God also made the Earth at a mature age. This is why you can look at it all day long with a carbon dating and say it is millions of years old. Likewise you could so the same with Adam and say He was 20 or 30 years old. But God created both on the spot as a mature age.
ok there
All you have done with that addition is create a God that is a liar and cheat, a trickster, Loki.
Is that your God?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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JonF
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Message 284 of 320 (429235)
10-18-2007 9:59 PM
Reply to: Message 280 by ILoveGod
10-18-2007 9:43 PM


Appearance of age vs. appearance of history
In Genesis God made Adam and Eve at a full grown mature age. Not children first, then adults, simply adults. When Jesus turned water into wine, He didn't turn the water into grapejuice first, and then wine, but Wine which is aged grapejuice. The point is that God also made the Earth at a mature age. This is why you can look at it all day long with a carbon dating and say it is millions of years old. Likewise you could so the same with Adam and say He was 20 or 30 years old. But God created both on the spot as a mature age.
There's a big difference between creating things with and appearance of age and creating things with an appearance of history. The former can certainly be justified in some cases; the latter is an effort to deceive.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Changed subtitle from "Re: Cliff and ILoveGod ID's have been merged" to "Appearance of age vs. appearance of history".

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ILoveGod
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Message 285 of 320 (429238)
10-18-2007 10:16 PM
Reply to: Message 281 by jar
10-18-2007 9:49 PM


Re: Heading towards the topic.
sure. And nothing I said has been proven false.
The Bible is real. Why?
#1 Well One of the first reasons is that those without the Spirit of God can't understand it.
as it is written.
(1 Corinthians 2:9-14) However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him"-- {10} but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. {11} For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. {12} We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. {13} This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. {14} The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
#2 Over 1,000 prophesies that have been fullfilled in perfect detail.
#3 The prophet is the pen, and the Writer is God. When you write a paper, is your pen writing it, or are you?
#4 All of the prophets Had to prove themselves to be true prophets to a most synicle of people. And had to do great mircales that no man could possibly do.
#5 The Bible carries on the same message throughout it's entirety with one personality, God's.
#6 No book in the entire world has been attacked, burned, and confiscated as much as the Bible, and yet it remains is the #1 best seller. And can be found in every province, in every country, in every nation.
#7 The old testament has remained virtually untouched since over 2,200 years ago when the Dead Sea Scrolls containing books from the old testament were found.
#8 The Bible has never been proven wrong.
#9 If you were to live your entire life the way the Bible says to, you'd be living a great life.
#10 Because it is

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