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Taz
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Message 2 of 50 (418525)
08-28-2007 7:39 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Grizz
08-28-2007 5:34 PM


Grizz writes:
In the press conference following his plea hearing, Michael vick has stated his legal woes over the dogfighting charges have led him to Jesus.
As I have been saying all these years. Most people nowadays seem to have this weird idea that being a christian somehow equates to being a good person. All criminals have to do is say "I've found jesus" or "I'm a christian" and people will automatically assume they're good people.
Frankly, I'm getting tired of all this "well, I'm a christian" bullshit. People actually say this to my face thinking it will make me think they are better people than I am.

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Taz
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Message 14 of 50 (418626)
08-29-2007 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by New Cat's Eye
08-29-2007 10:12 AM


Catholist writes:
Come on, now. That's not all they have to do and people don't automatically assume that.
Just sit back and watch.

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Taz
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Message 22 of 50 (418677)
08-29-2007 8:02 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Hyroglyphx
08-29-2007 6:18 PM


Re: What in the world was that boy thinking?
nem writes:
Dude, how could I have ever known something as innocuous as saying "boy", (which to me, is on par with "dude", "guy," "man", etc) would ever contain such overtones?
Back in the days when I was somewhat of a racist, it never occurred to me about the word "boy" when referencing a black male either. However, as sheltered as I was having attended one christian school after another, I managed to pick this up by the time I was in high school through the various books that I read while working in the library and the various books I had to read for my English classes. The Invisible Man and To Kill A Mocking Bird come to mind.
{added by edit}In fact, the high school I went to had almost no non-white people. Counting all the kids that were in my classes in my freshmen year, there was 1 non-white kid, and her name was Persha. The fact that I actually remember her name even though we almost never spoke to each other should tell you how phenomenal her presence was to me.{/added by edit}
I guess some ed. institutions just want their students to forget all the racial stuff that happened in the past. There was this particular book that I read about the true life story of the author. In one scene, the author recalls having been called a "nigger" by a little girl when he was about 8 or so. He really went deep into event. He said that later in his life he came to realize that that little girl never really meant to offend or insult him. She just innocently used that word to him because she had heard someone else used it. But this innocent use the word had changed his life forever. He wrote in his book that after that little girl called him "nigger", he lost all his innocence and became completely aware of how the society that he was living in hated him so.
While I was still a christian, I was taught many times that words have much power. After all, god did say let there be light for light to exist. We can go through the entire old and new testaments to find practically an unlimited number of examples of how the power of word is stressed.
Nem_jug, we are so surprised by your use of the word "boy", innocent or not, mostly because in life you are a figure of authority. People would have probably reacted less harshly if you were someone else. After all, we live in a society where people are allowed to stay in their blissful ignorance of their own history. But being a cop, you should really educate yourself of this kind of stuff to avoid complications. People look up to you.
The word "nigger" was used by everyone to demean a particular group of people. The word "boy" was particularly used by figures of authority like policemen, public servants, and even the local store clerk to demean a particular group of people. Other examples are "gal" and "broad".
Anyway, just be careful next time. The word coming from you has a lot more meaning and insult than if it is coming from me.
Edited by gasby, : No reason given.

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Taz
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Posts: 5069
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Message 40 of 50 (418855)
08-30-2007 7:10 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Omnivorous
08-30-2007 6:44 PM


Re: Not a racist thing (and drop the "boy" discussion)
Omnivorous writes:
...but that wasn't in any reply to me...
I think it is reasonable to ask and expect people to read more than just the posts that the other person responded directly to you. It helps to think of this forum as a social setting where there are more than 2 people talking to each other. Person A might say something while looking at person B, but persons C and D would naturally assume that person A was also saying it out loud for C and D to hear. So, in later part of the conversation, person A doesn't have to repeat himself 3 times everytime he wants to make a point. He could just say it once for persons B, C, and D even though he was looking at person B when he was saying it.
I responded to what he had to say directly to my objection. You have a problem with that?
I don't know about moose, but I do have a problem with that. When I talk or debate with someone, I don't just use information that was put forward directly to me. Here is a little script to demonstrate how silly it is for you to not expect you to assimilate posts that were not directly addressed to you.
Person A to person B: I am a christian.
Person C to person A: You never told me what religion you belong to, so I'm going to assume you're a buddhist.
Person A to person C: But I just told B I was a christian.
Person C to person A: But you didn't look at me when you said it, so I just blanked it out.
See how silly that seems? I would hate to have to repeat something 4 thousand times everytime I have a point to make just because there are 4 thousand active members on this forum.
Edited by Tazmanius Devilus, : No reason given.

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He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!

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