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Dan Carroll
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Message 16 of 140 (379002)
01-22-2007 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by johnfolton
01-22-2007 9:53 AM


Re: Mother Nature or Wrath of God?
1991 30 October - The Oslo Accord
President George H. Bush promoted and proudly signed the infamous Oslo Accord at the Madrid Peace Conference on October 30, 1991. The Oslo Accord was labeled a "Land for Peace" accord that demanded Israel award their land to the Palestinian murderers and terrorists in exchange for peace. The perverse Oslo proposition was simple: give us your land and we’ll stop killing you.
1991 31 October - The Next Day - The Perfect Storm hits
How come it didn't hit Oslo?

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Chiroptera
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Message 17 of 140 (379005)
01-22-2007 4:59 PM
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01-22-2007 4:55 PM


Re: Mother Nature or Wrath of God?
Or Jerusalem? It's not as if the Israelis are being forced to do anything.

But government...is not simply the way we express ourselves collectively but also often the only way we preserve our freedom from private power and its incursions. -- Bill Moyers (quoting John Schwarz)

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arachnophilia
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Message 18 of 140 (379043)
01-22-2007 6:42 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Archer Opteryx
01-22-2007 4:40 AM


Re: a very good year
That's great! You guys must have been doing something righteous.
Think hard. What could it have been?
oh, oh, i know what it was!


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honda33
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Message 19 of 140 (379055)
01-22-2007 7:12 PM
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01-21-2007 11:59 PM


most houses (post-andrew) are constructed out of solid concrete, with reinforced roofs, beams tied down. a fair percentage of people even have permanent window-protection. we all more or less know the drill -- we just swarm for food the day before. perhaps this is not something to brag about, but we literally shrug off the smaller ones. sometimes, we even throw parties.
Here in Antigua the attitude towards hurricanes is the same. After you have enough of those critters, you learn to live with them.
i believe i speak for everyone in south florida when i say that if this is all god's got, we are not impressed. there are a few things more terrifying than a category five heading straight for you
I remember back in 1999, after our second hurricane that year, we invited a "Holy-Ghost-filled" African evangelist to elucidate the meaning of the abundance of strange swirling winds from the east. I am not sure if he was chosen because of some special connection to God or because both he and the bloody critters came from the same place. However, he issued a dire warning to the inhabitants of this tiny Caribbean island .... God is not pleased and he is venting hurricanes. You see Antigua had two hurricanes in 1950, the next one in 1989-Hugo, followed by Luis in 1995, Georges in 98 and finally Jose and Lenny in 1999. According to the man of God, the period between hurricanes reduced from 39 years to 2 months, a sure sign that God was steaming through the ears. Nobody really bothered with God they just build stronger houses. I am not sure what transpired upstairs , but like the big bad wolf God seemed have taken His huffing and puffing to the south as was evident in His complete annihilation of Grenada in 04.

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arachnophilia
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Message 20 of 140 (379082)
01-22-2007 8:21 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by honda33
01-22-2007 7:12 PM


Here in Antigua the attitude towards hurricanes is the same. After you have enough of those critters, you learn to live with them.
you know what was actually more dangerous than the hurricanes?
the week without electricity that follows them every time now. no a/c, no refidgeration for insulin = dead old people. lots of spoiled food, electricutions, and people generally doing stupid things because they go stir-crazy with nothing to do. nights are hot and sweaty and start at 7pm, and all showers are frigid. it's nasty.
anyways, i have some pictures somewhere of my neighbours down the street. since the houses were so hot, everyone came outside and did whatever they could. lots of people chipped in with chainsaws to clear debris and stuff like that. but these kids down the street were sitting in their garage, drinking tequila straight from the bottle, and body-boarding on a skateboard down into the giant puddle at the end of their driveway.
God is not pleased and he is venting hurricanes. You see Antigua had two hurricanes in 1950, the next one in 1989-Hugo, followed by Luis in 1995, Georges in 98 and finally Jose and Lenny in 1999. According to the man of God, the period between hurricanes reduced from 39 years to 2 months, a sure sign that God was steaming through the ears. Nobody really bothered with God they just build stronger houses.
yeah, it's all "GOD. IS. PISSED." and then... nothing. where's the apocalypse? i tell you, about four days into the post-frances duldrums, i would have gladly welcomed it. then jeanne came, and it was "ok god, really, can you just kill me now?"


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Message 21 of 140 (379100)
01-22-2007 9:56 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Archer Opteryx
01-21-2007 11:19 AM


Re: angelas among you
One can't help but wonder at the causal relationship between the toroidal shape of a doughnut and the shape of a hurricane. Do you suppose that if she had had a bismark instead, maybe with a nice custard filling, that North Carolina might have been hit with a tropical depression, perhaps named Fritz?
Or, do you think it was the fact that it was to be a hurricane named Floyd that caused her to choose the doughnut with the strawberry icing? Precognition at work?
Compelling points to consider.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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honda33
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From: Antigua
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Message 22 of 140 (379102)
01-22-2007 10:21 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by arachnophilia
01-22-2007 8:21 PM


you know what was actually more dangerous than the hurricanes?
the week without electricity that follows them every time now. no a/c, no refidgeration for insulin = dead old people. lots of spoiled food, electricutions, and people generally doing stupid things because they go stir-crazy with nothing to do. nights are hot and sweaty and start at 7pm, and all showers are frigid. it's nasty.
I know exactly what you mean. I have strange affection for hurricanes, it's the aftermath that I detest. The only hurricane that scared me was Luis in 1995. The monster was packing maximum sustained winds of 145 m/h and gusting up to 175. To make matters worse the 350 miles wide beast crept across the islands at a snail-like 9 m/h. You can imagine the devastation, however the aftermath was actually worse. I went without power for six weeks. So multiply your dilemma by six.
yeah, it's all "GOD. IS. PISSED." and then... nothing. where's the apocalypse?
What's amazing in the number near misses we have every year. Maybe God's aim is bad or He is just toying with us. Somehow I inclined to His poor marksmanship ... have ever notice His 'canes' mainly take out the poor and uninsured? I don't believe those are people giving away Israel's lands.

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arachnophilia
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Message 23 of 140 (379119)
01-23-2007 12:14 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by honda33
01-22-2007 10:21 PM


To make matters worse the 350 miles wide beast crept across the islands at a snail-like 9 m/h.
yeah, it's not how fast they are, but how slowly they move. the only reason frances was as bad as it was an hour north of here is because it just sat there and churned. standing up in a hurricane is one thing. standing up in a hurricane for 12 hours is another.
I went without power for six weeks. So multiply your dilemma by six.
oof.
i don't want to even imagine. actually, by the time we got wilma last year, we were pretty much psyched-up and prepared for the week -- and then not only did she bring in a cold front to help us out, but we got our power back pretty quickly.
What's amazing in the number near misses we have every year. Maybe God's aim is bad or He is just toying with us.
yeah. when i was in high school, we had about a half dozen consecutive years where every hurricane's projected path was literally aimed right at our particular city on the east coast of fl. it got to the point where the ones that weren't projected right at us would make us worry, because all the ones that were missed.
some by a long shot. i recall once when a hurricane was supposed to hit us, and ended up hitting up near new york (might have been a tropical storm at the time). it was amusing to turn on mtv, and see what was supposed to be our bad weather behind carson daly.
have ever notice His 'canes' mainly take out the poor and uninsured? I don't believe those are people giving away Israel's lands.
i think the only hurricane that has ever affected a politican was katrina, and that was only through public opinion and shame.


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jar
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Message 24 of 140 (379121)
01-23-2007 12:22 AM
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01-23-2007 12:14 AM


George Bush has no shame.
i think the only hurricane that has ever affected a politican was katrina, and that was only through public opinion and shame.
George Bush has no shame. If it were not for the fact that Ronald Reagan was so MUCH worse as a President, Georgie Junior might well be the worst President in the last century. However Reagan set the bar for failure so high it is unlikely any President in the foreseeable future will be able to be worse than Ronald Reagan.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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arachnophilia
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Message 25 of 140 (379126)
01-23-2007 12:31 AM
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01-23-2007 12:22 AM


Re: George Bush has no shame.
George Bush has no shame.
no no, george bush is a shame.


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johnfolton 
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Message 26 of 140 (379149)
01-23-2007 3:47 AM


Clintons Shameful Conduct in Office
Israel is Gods land to Israel not Muslims land and when Bill Clinton snubbed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu the leader of his chosen people Israel .
God then within 24 hours shamed Mr. Bill Clintons Presidency in respect to the Monica Scandal. Because of this scandal he perjured was successfully impeached and had to surrender his law license.
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Contrary to a popular public misconception, Clinton was successfully impeached (that is, the House did successfully send him to be tried by the Senate). He was not, however, successfully convicted of any of the charges (which is why he was not removed from office), nor was he given any penalty (beyond the censure of the House of Representatives).
The perjury allegations provoked the Arkansas Supreme Court to suspend Clinton's law license in April 2000. Clinton agreed to the 5-year suspension and to pay a $25,000 fine on January 19, 2001. The following October, the U.S. Supreme Court once again suspended Clinton's law license and gave him 40 days to convince them that he should not be disbarred permanently. Clinton surrendered his law license in response to these actions. Clinton has since made a living as an author and speaker.
Clinton—Lewinsky scandal - Wikipedia
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1994 16 January
President Bill Clinton meets with terrorist and Israel hater Syria's President Hafez el-Assad in Geneva. They talk about a peace agreement with Israel that includes Israel giving up the Golan Heights.
1994 17 January - less than 24 hours - 6.9 Earthquake rocks California
In less than 24 hours, a powerful 6.9 earthquake rocks Southern California. This mysterious quake, centered in Northridge, is the second most destructive natural disaster to hit the United States, behind Hurricane Andrew.
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1998 21 January
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meets with President Clinton at the White House and is coldly received. Clinton and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright refuse to have lunch with him.
1998 21 January - the same day - Monica Lewinsky scandal erupts
After Clinton’s rejection of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, later the very same day, the Monica Lewinsky scandal breaks out, destroying the Clinton presidency and resulting in his impeachment.
http://www.av1611.org/katrina.html
Edited by Charley, : No reason given.

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Vacate
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Message 27 of 140 (379160)
01-23-2007 6:38 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by johnfolton
01-23-2007 3:47 AM


Gods fury/ Placing blame
December 26, 2004 = 230,000 people dead in one of the worst natural disasters in recorded history.
Great Hanshin earthquake (1995). Killed over 6,400 people in and around Kobe, Japan.
Chi-Chi earthquake (1999) Also called the 921 earthquake. Struck Taiwan on September 21 1999. Over 2,000 people killed, destroyed or damaged over ten thousand buildings
zmit earthquake (1999) Killed over 17,000 in northwestern Turkey
Bam Earthquake (2003). Over 40,000 people are reported dead
Kashmir earthquake (2005). Killed over 79,000 people
1998 Yangtze River Floods left 14 million people homeless
(Source: Wikipedia)
There are many more examples of disasters that occured in the timescale that you have posted. I am curious if Gods wrath was incurred on these countries for misdeeds to Israel?
Does God only show his wrath on United States when screwing up deals with Israel, or is he an equal opportunity destroyer? Does God only keep his eye on the United States, or perhaps you are unaware that equally devastating disasters happen world wide and it is simply impossible to link them to God leaving a message not to mess with Israel.
Edited by Vacate, : No reason given.

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Archer Opteryx
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Message 28 of 140 (379162)
01-23-2007 6:57 AM
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01-23-2007 6:38 AM


Re: Gods fury/ Placing blame
That's why I had to break up with my girlfriend. She was a delightful person. But it puts a strain on a relationship, you know? All that catastrophe, the endless lawsuits from victims, the hidden Snickers bars...
____
Edited by Archer Opterix, : ...

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Vacate
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Message 29 of 140 (379169)
01-23-2007 8:16 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Archer Opteryx
01-23-2007 6:57 AM


Re: Gods fury/ Placing blame
Amid my hunt for snickers bars and my search for meaning in Key lime pie I completely misunderstood what you where saying Archer.
Complete re-edit of my post, but its not like I had used it to contribute to debate.
Edited by Vacate, : Snicker

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Dan Carroll
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Message 30 of 140 (379187)
01-23-2007 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by johnfolton
01-23-2007 3:47 AM


Re: Clintons Shameful Conduct in Office
Israel is Gods land to Israel not Muslims land and when Bill Clinton snubbed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu the leader of his chosen people Israel .
God then within 24 hours shamed Mr. Bill Clintons Presidency in respect to the Monica Scandal. Because of this scandal he perjured was successfully impeached and had to surrender his law license.
How did God manage to reverse time, and put Clinton's dong in a girl's mouth, so there'd even be a scandal that could break?
I mean, sure, he's God, he can do whatever he wants. Just seems like God's taking the long way around the barn, here. Would have been much easier to just go ahead and just give Clinton a heart attack or something.
1994 16 January
President Bill Clinton meets with terrorist and Israel hater Syria's President Hafez el-Assad in Geneva. They talk about a peace agreement with Israel that includes Israel giving up the Golan Heights.
1994 17 January - less than 24 hours - 6.9 Earthquake rocks California
How come the earthquake didn't hit Syria?

"I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut."
-Stephen Colbert

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