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Archer Opteryx
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Message 136 of 140 (380943)
01-29-2007 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by johnfolton
01-29-2007 9:59 AM


Re: No Place to Lay His Head
Charley:
You too seem to agree with depowering the churches which is not the apostle Paul witness to be robbing from the church.
Its about empowerment of the church to save up for their children not bondage to give all to the poor. 2 corinthians 12:14.
You want the church to give all to the poor but this is clearly not what the bible says. Save up for your children is clearly not giving all to the poor but the opposite. Its ok to save for your retirement because this is your inheritance to your children.
Actually, I never mentioned the church.
You assume a great deal.
If you don't want to give to the poor, don't.
Just forego banging your Bible afterward and telling other people to obey the words. You don't have the right.
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Message 137 of 140 (380985)
01-29-2007 2:48 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by Archer Opteryx
01-29-2007 1:07 PM


Re: No Place to Lay His Head
Actually, I never mentioned the church.
The church is the people not the building made with hands.
You assume a great deal.
If you don't want to give to the poor, don't.
Your the one that assumes the church is supposed to give all to the poor. Giving to the poor is not the issue, giving all you have to the poor is the issue. Paul warns the church to save up for their children thus were not to give all to the poor.

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Archer Opteryx
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Message 138 of 140 (381010)
01-29-2007 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by johnfolton
01-29-2007 2:48 PM


Re: No Place to Lay His Head
You're confusing a lot of things, Charley. You're confusing individual responsibility with collective responsibility and confusing both with masonry. Then you confuse your allegience to Paul with your allegience to Jesus.
My point stands. You have no right to lecture anyone about Jesus until you are ready to take seriously the things he taught.
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Message 139 of 140 (381063)
01-29-2007 5:29 PM
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01-29-2007 3:54 PM


Re: No Place to Lay His Head
You're confusing a lot of things
You need to read the bible in context with the epistles of Paul.
That you don't is the source of your confusion.
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Message 140 of 140 (381146)
01-29-2007 11:52 PM


Gog's Jaw & The Hook's Ezek 38:1-6
Is this the same Hal Lindsey who told everyone circa 1980 that the Book of Revelation foretold the Soviet Union will attack Israel with nuclear weapons to bring on the great war of Armegeddon?
Yes, However its not Armegeddon which comes from the whole earth, the Eziekel Invasion is from the north.
Gog Magog War of Ezekiel 38
Let the record show that this never happened, and today the Soviet Union no longer exists.
Prophecy is it not being fullfilled as Russia alines with Iran. Ezek. 38:1-6 Apparently Iran is no longer a threat to Putin have the hooks been set. Ahmadinejad calls for Israels destruction is not Gog (Russia) alining with Iran and all the players.
Enjoy,
Charley
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Barely acknowledged by the Western media, military exercises organized by Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan under the Collective Security Treaty Organisation, (CSTO) were launched on the 24th of August. These war games, officially tagged as part of a counter terrorism program, are in direct response to US military threats in the region including the planned attacks against Iran.
Russia and Central Asian Allies Conduct War Games in Response to US Threats - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization
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Mart Zuckerman, editor of U. S. News & World Report has said, "Russian President Vladimir Putin, in an interview several years ago, criticized America's decision to go to war against Iraq and told me, "The real threat is Iran."
What is the mentality driving someone like Ahmadinejad? It has been noted: "In all his crazed pronouncements, Ahmadinejad reflects an end-of-days view: History is coming to its grand finale under his aegis."
The Battle of Gog and Magog in Ezekiel 38 and 39 is a prophecy about an attack upon the land of Israel led by Russian with a number of nations joining them, (Ezek. 38:1-6). Russia will have five key allies: Turkey, Iran, Libya, Sudan and the nations of Central Asia.
The Lord says, "And I will turn you about, and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them splendidly attired, a great company with buckler and shield, all of them wielding swords" (Ezek. 38:4).
http://www.pre-trib.org/article-view.php?id=264
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Edited by Charley, : Moved response from the trinity thread in respect to the Ezekiel invasion prophecy of Israel.

  
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