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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
AnswersInGenitals writes: This is exactly the way I've heard scientists and mathematicians describe the experience of making a new discovery! Charles Manson had the same experience too. It seems like a fairly normal human thing. It's all in what you do with it. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kader writes: Does every atheist in the world are unable to have any sense of critical thinking ? Atheists explore the Territory without a Map.
Why does God pick and choose only believers to talk to them. God is not the auto club - He doesn't give out Maps. You can choose to use the Map your parents gave you or you can go out and find whatever Map you like. The Map won't "speak" to you unless you use it. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kader writes: Many atheist were first and foremost theist. They threw the Maps away.
... it is God that gave the maps to men many years ago. No. The Maps are all man-made. Some mapmakers claim that God "guided their hand".
If I follow you thoughs on this, God also gave us a map we call Greek mythology. Is greek mythology a map ? Greek mythology is a Map, but it was not given out by God. It was made by Greeks.
And if all maps aren't equal WHO is to judge wich maps is THE CLOSEST to the truth ? We all are. We all have to compare the Map to the Territory on our journey through life. If a Map claims that the Territory will self-destruct in 1914 and it doesn't, it's not very accurate.
There is nothing that would compell me to believe that God talked to people and couldn't get the message through. **shrug** Nobody's trying to "compell" you. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kader writes: Most knowledge of our world (physical) that is described in thoses maps(pick wich one you like), have been scientifically refuted. If you expect to find a big red line between countries, you will be disappointed. If you expect the capital of your country to be shaped like a star, you will be disappointed. That doesn't mean the Map has been "refuted". It means you don't know how to read a Map.
So why would you trust that these map might be correct on the spiritual level ? You compare it to the spiritual Territory. If it doesn't match the Territory, you try a different Map, or you become Magellan.
God gives no factual evidence of its existance, yet to his believers he gives all the evidence they need. Why ? You're illustrating that very well. There can not be any communication unless the receiver is turned on. You have to pay attention. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kader writes: only a select few seems to have that provilege, hence why I want to know if you are special I don't think "only a select few have that privilege". I think I have experiences that are very similar to jar's, but I don't necessarily think of it as God talking to me. You probably have silmilar experiences too, but you don't think of it as God talking to you. Whether it "is" God talking to you or not is not important. We all have the same "inputs" (even if those inputs are generated by our own brains). Some call it the voice of God. Some call it intuition. Some call it something else. No need to make an issue of it. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
It's been very cold here lately - minus 25 (Celsius) with a wind-chill of minus 40. The birds line up on the window-sill to wait their turn at the feeder and to take advantage of the warmth coming through the glass.
Yesterday, while I was washing dishes, a sparrow was looking right at me, not three feet away. We had a moment of communication, big-brain to little-brain, flier to walker. He wasn't speaking English. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Hoot Mon writes: big-brain to little-brain, flier to walker. Is that a parallel construction? It's a reverse-parallel construction. I'm trying to emulate Hebrew. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kader writes: But why dooes God speaks to people in PLAIN english...? Who says He does? Maybe I haven't been following the thread closely enough. Has anybody here claimed that God speaks to them audibly in plain English? Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kader writes: Well some example have been givenMessage 8 and Message 18 Second-hand reports? The ones in Message 18 could be exaggerating, lying, deluded.... We don't know. We can't treat hearsay as evidence. The ones in Message 8 are people that I "know" - and I don't recall them claiming that God speaks to them audibly in English. I think you're being too literal-minded. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kader writes: But if you believe God exist why don't you believe God can speak to people ? Did I say either of those things? I think I said that all human beings tend to have the same kinds of experiences. Some people interpret some of their experiences as "God speaking to them". Others interpret the same experiences in different ways.
What you seem to believe is that God talk to us but not in plain english. Why the distinction ? Why would God speak to us in plain English?
Well I do no know them, did Gasby misinterpreted ? I don't think Gasby suggested that God spoke to those EvC members audibly in English. I don't recall any of them saying that and I do seem to recall some of them saying that it was not audible English that they interpreted as the "voice of God". We'll have to leave it up to them to clarify. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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