I met God

You’re sitting on your sofa having a casual “God” conversation with a friend, and then after maybe hours of debating you hear it.“I was reborn”
“I met God”
“God reached me”There is no more possible discussion, he has met God, he has the ultimate proof. There is nothing I could add, nothing I could debate. Whether he believes in a YE or OE doesn’t matter. His belief is now something else completely. It is a fact.I’ve also read people on this forum asserting that they either speak, or feel the presence of their God. I say their God here because every religion has some followers claiming to have met with their God.I’m wondering.Are you special ?
What about the “others religious” who claim the same thing ?
Why does God only speaks with believers ?

I think I can safely say that the majority of people would listen to God .I don't think even the most hard headed atheist would ignore what God would tell him.They don't believe in him mainly because he never did anything. no phonce calls, no letter, no memos... God is simply non existant to the atheist.As for the rest, I was mainly adressing the "other" type of religious people, the one that think their religions is THE religion.

Yep, my point is they cannot be all right.So all of them(them being ppl who believe in something else) must be wrongEdited by Kader, : No reason given.

The thing is everyone experience love to a certain degree, while only a very select people can hear God.And im not talking about day to day things you can attribute to God. Im talking about God directly speaking to you and telling you what to do.Another thing to note. when God speaks to someone it is always (strangely) in concordence to what belief the person hold.

well thats easy, you didn't really listen....Serisouly, didn't you heard that one before ?Like if any human being would deny God (if he existed).
Everyone would welcome any proof of the existance of God. Anyone, especially atheist.

No im talking of people who genuinly believe God told them things
Like theses : George Bush
This man (named John)
This man toothere are more.. a couple of click away (google)here another quote

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...Benny Hinn, who once said that God told him "homosexuals in America will be destroyed by fire by 1995". Or by Joel Osteen who says things like this: "I was praying one morning asking God about all of this. And the Lord spoke to me so clearly, not out loud but right down in my heart. God said . . ."

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Anyways, LOTS of people converse with God Well when God speaks to you, he usually uphold what view of him/her you have. I've yet to see someone that who spoke to God and then "changed" religion..(usually if the voice you hear doesn't fit your preconceived idea of God, the person can aswell conclude that it was satan speaking to him...)

Is it the Biblical God we're talking about ? (Jesus)
Because if it is, then you have a bunch of muslim people who will strongly deny what you just said. (about 1 billions people to be more precise) When does the world ends ?Edited by Kader, : No reason given.

Scottness if you speak with God can you ask him question ?And if you can can you ask him question that would make me a believer ?
I will believe that God exist, and not any God I will faithfully embrace your ideas and religions if you simply ask God :Tell me what to write to Kader so he will believe in youIs that something that is possible ?

First, I don't slready believe in God, I believe in the possibility of a God.Second, I actually read the Gospel of John. So do not assume here I didn't try.But no, that didn't make me believe in him.So what conclusion can we both agree on ?
Do you think it wasn't God who talked to you ?
Or maybe it is I who is the problem ?

I think every religious man or women judge other religions simply by choosing wich one to be in (usually nobody choose the religions we just get indoctrined in it, but lets not get off topic). If I am christian I believe a completly different set of rules then if I was to be muslim, and also, I believe for some reason that the truth of my religions is (maybe just slightly) superior to the others.And if Jesus speaks to you, you can affirm that Jesus is the son of God and all the followers of Islam have it wrong.I was not talking about you btw, but in a general manner, if someone is christian and God speaks to them, there is a reason why they stay christian. I consider myself having a pretty open mind. I crave knowledge about God, I want him to talk to me or to show me his existance. But I'm not getting any insight, and I don't want to spend anymore time studying any scripture. I want him to speak to me like he speaks to Goerge Bush. And I will convert.

Because we can't disprove God.EDIT : And I would really like to be in the "I KNOW God exist" camp.. so much less hassle then the "I admit I do not know"It really sucks "not to know" I want to know.Edited by Kader, : No reason given.

Never Now please If you say that God is Jesus (and vice-versa) it is not silly to say that 1 billion muslim will strongly disagree with you. I said before, very romantic way of seing things, I wish everyone would hold the same kind of belief, but reality is otherwise..sadly. Im not saying that christianity is God, I am saying that to go to heaven you have to follow a set of rules, and theses rules contradict themselves from a religion to another. Map vs territory is your belief.So Im only conflating map and territory for people holding that perticular belief.

ScottnessI think if there is one thing everyone agrees here it is that
Everyone here would like to have proof of GodEveryone is dead serious about it.
And if God (without a doubt) does speak right now to ANY person on this board, it would be the most amrking day of his life.I don't think any atheist here would reject a sign from God. Actually it is quite the contrary, there is atheist because of the LACK of signs from God.And then we come to personal experience.How valid it is ?
Do every atheist in the world have heard God but denied him ? I beg to differ. Atheist is belief there is no God because there is NO SIGN of God.My mother is catholic and my father muslim as I said before. Neither of them EVER spoke to God. I know only some people who claimed to speak with God, and it still is to me, a very serious delusion.Now listen why I say so.- No person has ever proved he spoke to God.
- No person after speakig with God could demonstrate any kind of divine wisdome
- I never heard God (and yes I would very much like to do so)
- If God want to speak to me and I am willing, whats the matter ?
- If someone can speak with God and ask him question, why can't the most distressing actual problem hasn't been solved yet ?Sorry but I really wish I believed you actually spoke to God, but I can't (dont take offense)If God would have spoken to you, I would be a believer by nowEDIT :
The people I know that told me they could speak with God have failed to demonstrate even slightly they were not making it up.
IE :
me : Can you ask him question ?
him : yes
me : When will I die ?
him : It doesn't work like that ?
.....And you know what.. every question I asked was answered by the same kind of cop-out. There wa snothing he could tell me. I mean for 25$ I can get a hand reading that would have actually attempted to answer to my questions. Saying that God doesn't want to answer ANY of my question is like saying he doesn not wish to talk to me. So I come back to the question, if God spoke to YOU, are you more special then me ?Edited by Kader, : No reason given.

Alright Jar Map vs Territory in religious belief IS NOT critical thinking.Does every atheist in the world are unable to have any sense of critical thinking ? Any facts at all ?
Christianity based itself on the bible Islam of the Qu'ran... What you are syaing implies that both Qu'ran and the Bible are wrong and right at the same time.It suits you to think the great flood didn't happen, and it suits you to believe that jesus existed. You pick and choose what you want to be true. So please believing I am wrong does not make it so. (vice versa of course)But to get back on topic, Why does God pick and choose only believers to talk to them.Do I have to be born and indoctrined in a religious belief for God to speak to me ?Edited by Kader, : No reason given.

Either God really is talking to Bush, wich invalidate whatever preconcieved idea you might have of what would God say to Goerge Bush, or he might be lying/deluded.I chose to believe he is lying/deluded. Everyone craves knowledge about God. Me too. Everyone would like to know if God exist (including many believers) I do not crave God, I crave knowledge about God.
And the end of time was but one question (on a list of thousands of question) I would like to have an answer for. Some are more personal some are very general. Wich is impossible today. But it something nice to hope for