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Author Topic:   Is Hovind going to hell?
gene90
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Message 14 of 53 (3746)
02-07-2002 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by mark24
02-07-2002 4:04 PM


[QUOTE][b]Also, if I accept Jesus, but make a go of commiting sins as much as possible, at what point do I get NO reward in heaven, but still go there.[/QUOTE]
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Asking repentance, and having faith in that repentance, are necessary but you also have to stop sinning. If Hovind continues his lies until he dies he will probably go to Hell no matter how strongly he believes in God or accepts Jesus. He might get treated better than a constant liar who is an atheist, but I doubt it.
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Message 18 of 53 (3783)
02-07-2002 11:57 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Cobra_snake
02-07-2002 11:43 PM


I would say that we are still expected to follow them. That's what I was always taught, anyway.

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gene90
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Message 20 of 53 (3806)
02-08-2002 8:57 AM
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02-08-2002 7:28 AM


[QUOTE][b]Yet today, most christians would say we should observe the ten commandments; few would say we should also observe the six hundred and something other instructions on how to live. Why?[/QUOTE]
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That was explained to me as being because, if the Jews couldn't hold themselves to all their laws, Gentiles shouldn't be asked to either.
Christianity is a more gregarious faith than Judaism and it is open to anyone (or really liberal Judaism for everyone + Messiah). Judaism, traditionally, is one based on family lineages and is not as gregarious. Sadly, this has caused them much hardship over the years.
Why do Orthodox Jews still keep to their strict laws? Well remember, they aren't Christians and so they don't believe in the Christian covenant with God established through the death of Christ.

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