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Topic: Just What is (and what is wrong with) Political Correctness?
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Dan Carroll
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Re: It is not PC to be PC
Well, I conform. You're hiding it extremely well.
I do not. They will be liked if they are likeable. Then what's the problem?
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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member
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Re: It is not PC to be PC
The problem is that the range of what sort of person one can be in order to be liked is perhaps growing narrower. Do you feel people don't have the right to decide how narrowly they define "likeable?" In an absolute extreme, don't people have the right to not like anyone, if they so choose?
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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member
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Re: PC and Public-Spiritedness
This notion of people having self-esteem originated in regard to minorities. Neat. What's the connection to political correctness? You don't mention it once in your post.
What's the best way to interact? You get together and do good things, things are beneficial and you do this with a smile on your collective face. You become part of an uplifting group that does
VOLUNTEER work. You become part of a GROUP. You become public-spirited. That does sound nice. It has nothing to do with PC, except that you seem to be calling it PC, but it sounds nice.
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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member
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Re: It is not PC to be PC
Sure, but this is not about rights. Fair enough. I just figured you probably had more of a leg to stand on than, "people are defining what they like in ways I don't like."
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Dan Carroll
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Re: PC and Public-Spiritedness
The concern with the self-esteem of minorites is PC. Yes, you've said that a few times. Saying it doesn't make it so, even if you say it several times. Is this one of those things like "nihilism" where you have a special definition that you came up with on your own?
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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member
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Re: PC and Public-Spiritedness
That's what all these name changes are about, such as the switch from "negro" to "black" to "African-American." It's about the self-esteem of that group. That's PC by any common definition. Or about not being dicks to people for no reason. If someone takes offense at being called by a certain word, (or if the word itself is inherently derogatory,) then not calling them by it has nothing to do with self-esteem. It's just basic decency.
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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member
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Re: PC and Public-Spiritedness
It's got everything to do with it historically. Well, if we're playing a game of "I say it, that makes it so," then you'll have to excuse me. I have to go have sex with Kristen Bell.
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Dan Carroll
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Re: Don't criticize without an alternative!
There is much of this sort of thing in the literary criticism of the last 20 years or so. The literary work is treated as a social artifact that reveals the prejudices of its day. Shakespeare's time was extremely sexist and racist, and this is revealed in his works. There's also a line of thought called "Queer Theory." The purpose of this type of analysis is to reveal the homophobia in any given work. Everybody has their own agenda. Sure, but agendas are less obvious when people have actually read Shakespeare criticism. The main discussion of homosexuality that goes on in that context suggests that certain characters are intended to be gay, but characters with whom one can sympathize... like Antonio in Merchant of Venice. And the idea wildly predates any formalized Queer Theory.
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Dan Carroll
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Re: Don't criticize without an alternative!
Maybe so. I'm just saying that this field of academics is heavily oriented toward PC concerns. And I'm just saying that your post reveals your total lack of knowledge on this field. I mean honestly... Queer Theory says that Shakespeare was homophobic? You just couldn't have picked a worse example if you tried.
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