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riVeRraT
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Message 211 of 229 (333926)
07-21-2006 9:12 AM
Reply to: Message 205 by Faith
07-20-2006 9:23 AM


Re: God's judgment
Are you objecting to my explaining God's role in events because you disagree that God has that role in them or because even though it's true I shouldn't be saying it?
I don't know specifically if God's role in Katrina was more than just the ground being cursed, and a natural flow of events, or if it was God's wrath being poured out on innocent people to make a point.
But I do know thta it is pointless to speak of it after the fact, because it doesn't prove your a prophet, it is using peoples fear of what is supposed to happen, and it is very condemning towards people. I see no usefulness in using it as a tool to get people to repent and believe.
If you would have posted here a onth before the storm and gave us some details of the upcoming doom, then maybe it would have more meaning, and people could then consider you a prophet.
Even the OT speaks of who is considered a prophet. Your prophecies must come true in ordered for you to be considered a prophet. So after the fact isn't helping your case.
Speak that one to yourself, since your attitude toward me leaves quite a bit to be desired.
If I was behaving in the wrong way, I would expect to be spoken to by my brothers and sisters, so that I may improve, and better spread the gospel of Jesus. Loving people isn't always that easy, and we do things to people without even realizing it. As God reveals these things to us, through scriptures, and people, we can grow in His love, and then transmit that love to others.

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 212 of 229 (333928)
07-21-2006 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 207 by ramoss
07-20-2006 10:07 AM


Re: God's judgment
How many did he get right?
He is well known as being a prophet. While I don't know how many he gets right, it is close to, if not 100%.
His prediction of the hurricane wasn't for New Orleans specifically, but he did say that a hurricane was coming that was going to be much larger than any other hurricane in the past, and it would be in a few months.
Benny Hinn also predicted major natural disasters for the country, like we haven't seen before, one month before it happened.
Neither of them said that it was God's wrath, just that it was going to happen.
John Paul Jackson does it through his email letters, and Benny Hinn did it on TV.
I don't particulary care for Benny Hinn, or his ways, but I did happen to catch a show where he predicted it.
I am not really all hung up on prophecies, but I do pay attention to them, so it doesn't really require much more conversation about it. If you are interested in prophecies, and how real or fake they are, it is fairly simple research to see who is considered a prophet these days, and to read his/her publications online. Then you can judge for yourself, instead of debating second hand information about it.

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riVeRraT
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Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
Joined: 05-09-2004


Message 213 of 229 (333933)
07-21-2006 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 209 by jar
07-20-2006 10:54 AM


Re: God's judgment
So did many studies that streatched over several decades. Only someone who had tightly shut their eyes and ears did not know what would happen.
The prophecies were not about the levys breaking.
Because one is backed by evidence while the theist prophet is but a conman.
At one time in life, I would have greed with you with arms raised in the air, until I started recieving my own visions about events and things. I am no conman jar. I don't want $19.95 for a green miracle rag, or do the guys I am talking about.
As a matter of fact, I met John Paul Jackson once.
(long story short) He was preaching about orbs in digital pictures and claiming they were spirits from God. I am into photography as a hobby, and have researched them on my own, and have made the conclusion they weren't.
I confronted him with the information. He was decieved by a photographer from a major newspaper, and was told they were spirits from God. After I gave him the information, he stopped preaching that message. He wants to keep it as real as possible.
It is not easy being a prophet. Phonies are easily detected. Only somone that spends enough time in prayer, worshiping God, having a personal relationship with him. and has the gift, can do it.
I know that you are closed to all those ideas.

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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 446 days)
Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
Joined: 05-09-2004


Message 226 of 229 (334476)
07-23-2006 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 214 by sidelined
07-21-2006 10:31 AM


Re: God's judgment
However, Iwould ask that the next event you claim to have insight on be something that you post to us here that we might actually have something pre event to verify that what you are saying is correct.
I will. I am praying for it.
But I garauntee that it will be turned around and made false, no matter what I say.
If the man needs you to correct him on issues that he claims to be expert in then how does he make the error he did?
His advicer mis-led him. It was by his own "expertise" that he made a mistake. He is a man desperate for God, as is many others. He is also a man desperate for integrety.
To know God, or to hear from is only by your integrety, and that is the focus of the Art of Hearing God 101, which I took BTW. An excellent course. I quote from him "If the orbs are not of God, then I need to not speak on it anymore".
The orbs is a complicated subject, and it didn't happen as easily as you rthink. There were other photograph's that had no explanations, and people did see with their eyes. They were confusing all the photos together.
I will go out on a limb here and prophesy that either you cannot {for any number of reasons} or the periodical he did the claiming in is post Katrina and therefore invalid.
Yes, you are out on a limb, come back to the tree.

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