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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Did you read his description carefully?
What about this?
I am the best, most loyal friend you will ever have if you are so lucky as to earn my regard I want to vomit. Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
And how can being constantly surprised weary one? It's psychologically impossible to be "constantly surprised." Surprise depends on rarity of occurrence--at least the kind of "surprise" you are talking about. One of the qualities of the human mind is HABITUATION. We grow used to things. We grow tired of things. We after awhile are unmoved by that which moved us before.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
if you are so lucky as to earn my regard This is the part that really got to me. Such boasting.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Sounds like you're more than a little fed-up at the moment.... I'm just fed up with this Hallmark greeting card view of life.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
How can that not surprise one and provide yet more confirmation of the wonder of nature? What's next? A picture of the Andromeda Galaxy? Spouting whales? A few weeks ago I went with my wife to the VA hospital locally (she was signing up for benefits). While she was filling out paperwork, I wandered around. I happened to go out this door into a sort of patio, and there I saw a lot of old men. Many of them were missing limbs. They didn't look like they had much money either. Shabbily dressed. Veterans of some war or other. It was terrible. My heart went out to them. Life.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
How at all was this terrible? The suffering.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
I would ask you to clarify what you mean by suffering. The missing limbs. The neglect. Also I felt guilty.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
guilty for what if i may ask? The usual thing. Why not me? Why them? Some of them were about my age. I got off lucky. I looked younger because I had not suffered.
As well as what neglect? They were poor because they got their legs blown off in some horrible battle, and when they got back they couldn't find a decent job.
And why do you pity their lost limbs? What a question.
Does losing a limb make them any less of a person of experience? No, but they SUFFER. I looked at their faces, and what I saw was a stony, stoic suffering. One of them bummed a cigarette off me. That's all I had to give him. Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Is there a place to make nominations for the most inane topic of the month? Why inane?
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
You pity them for their circumstances that had them join the military? This could be taken as spitting on their entire life past joining the military. For the military was their choice, in their situation in most cases (except for the draftees), in which case they have other reasons to be bitter. You don't seem to understand genuine human feeling. You are so wrapped up in political correctness that you don't understand that one can sympathize with a person for their suffering and yet admire their stoic courage at the same time. I felt sorry for them. It was terrible. It was tragic. And I admired them.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
I wonder what qualifies you to make judgement at my understanding of human feeling? Are you able to read my mind or do you understand the depth of my humanity? Do you think your own perception of human feeling is so right and proper that you are able to condemn me for my own feelings? Your comments and questions were obtuse. Sympathy or pity does not imply condescension.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
That some Vietcong dropped a mortar round into the tube for whatever the geopolitical reason was then - and with such stupendously significant consequences, for so long a time, in the life of something so apparently significant It's not a political issue for me, iano. I just saw on those faces the suffering of life in general. And I was amazed that no one could understand what I was talking about. The whole history of grief was written on those faces.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
I'm flattered by you calling me obtuse, one would wonder what form of teacher calls a student of learning obtuse? Your assumptions were despicable. Where did you pick this garbage up anyway--that if somebody feels sorry for someone who lost a limb, that they are "dehumanizing" them? What is this? Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Robin could you please describe the assumptions that you feel I am making? I am open to retracting all I have said if you feel that the listed assumptions were made in error, as of right now I am very uncertain which assumptions you feel are despicable so I can't actually examine them. You are talking about me spitting on the lives of these soldiers because I felt sorry for them? You are talking about me "dehumanizing" these soldiers because I felt for them? Because I saw suffering in their eyes? How dare you. Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Absolutely crazy, I agree. I guess it's politically correct to boast about how moral you are (because that means you "love yourself," which of course is wonderful); however, it's politically incorrect to feel sorry for someone because that means you think that you are better than they are. I mean, who in the hell do I think I am feeling SYMPATHY for somebody? Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.
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