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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Remember Larni asked (twice) that I would apply Christian theology to the dream - so I presume that is not your objection You can have no objection to this. Larni asked, I obliged. If you do object take it up with Larni.
- more how I did it.
yep Given that your problem lies not in the 'doing' but in the 'how' it was done, could you tell me in which way I could answer the question that would be ameniable to you? Sorry about the Georgy bit. A little over the top - but you seem to object to me yet say nothing to Larni who asked the question. In fact you agreed with him earlier when he got a response to a question he asked. One gathers the true problem lies elsewhere. Crevo attacking for attacking sake. If so - take the hits that go with it if they come
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Johnny Cash I'm afraid. I was a skinhead in Depeche M days. If anyone had tried to talk to me about Jesus I would have probably nutted them.
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Is that the time. Sheet
Later dude. I'm off to worship practice. Forgive me Lord for the speed I am about to commit
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Me too. The Lord promises that he will restore the (unbelieving) years the locusts have swallowed up. He did in many ways for me. But not in that department alas
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Christ! A Freudian Slip?
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Dream interpretation is on the same hokey floor as tea leaves, astrology and tarot. Dream on...
quote: Have a look at titles and publications referred to in the references at the bottom of this very scientific looking paper. Dream Interpretation with Heterosexual Dating Couples - Kolchakian -
ASD Journal Dreaming 12(1)
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
I had the impression I was her prey Assuming we can assume the Lion/Jesus connection at this point some things to note which may illuminate our pop psychology. In case you haven't got one...
A well laid out online Bible 1) The process of God making Christians is pictured in the Bible as you being crucified. Put to death. The 'old man', the spiritually dead one, is done away with. The necessity for this happening is also given below. The start of Romans 7 uses illustrations from marriage to elaborate on this idea of how one is freed from being subject to The Law which says 'do this' 'do that'.
quote: ...freed from sin. Sin being Law breaking. Free from the addiction to sin I have spoken of before. "If the Son sets you free (from The Law) you will be free indeed" 2) A person can only inhabit one of two states. 'In Adam' (we are all born that way) or 'in Christ' (old man is put to death - and immediately we are reborn and placed (by God) into Christ - all part of the same saving process that God applies). You would be in him. Just like you would be were you eaten by a lion. This sounds like you would not be you anymore - being consumed like that. But it is either be consumed like that or remain in the belly of Adam. A person who is captive to sin is not free. Freedom is an illusion. We are slaves/servants/sons either of Satan or God. No other options possible.
quote: The Law of sin and death = the law of God that says "Do this" "Don't do that". The one we cannot ever keep. We are freed from subjection to this law and become subject to a law we can keep. He enables us to keep it. And in an irresistable way. Love for him means we want to do things his way. 3) Being consumed by this Lion may well involve pain. That pain might be the torture of a search which takes you down one blind alley after the other. It may involve being broken. It may, as it does in the case of alcholics who find their strength in their "higher power" - require total devastation. The process of crucifixion can be excruciating if one lets themselves be crucified. One possible experience may be the inner turmoil that Paul describes here of a man on the point of salvation:
quote: It can be this way, it can be dozens of ways that differ in detail from this. Each arrives with their own testimony. This one is similar to my own. Then I was saved and could (and still do) say the very next sentence of this passage:
quote: 4) And it would have to be a lioness! The one whose characteristic is to act out of concern for her offspring (-to-be).
Larni earlier writes: life, death and rebirth, sacrifice, forgiveness,
iano writes: life: it was there in the distance. In the church. Not yet seen as life but then again there is a continuum on the road to salvation. Next dream perhaps Next dream indeed! It didn't take long. The above is life for you Larni. First you have to die however. Its worth it. Well worth it. Edited by iano, : No reason given. Edited by iano, : No reason given.
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Ringo speculating about Jesus writes: shemale CK speculating about Jesus writes: ladyboy. quote: Edited by iano, : attribute quotes
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
You harbour hate for ladyboys in your heart? Is that what you are saying? So why are you dreaming about them? For any lurkers who have tripped across this and want to find out more then this is as good a place to start as any! Welcome to EvC!
Good question: I had the impression I was her prey
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
I was more a head-butter myself, being gifted with a prominent median sagittal ridge, on which noses, lips and finger bones have broken. You ain't met him yet. No contest. Edited by iano, : No reason given.
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Western culture is steeped in Christian theology, particulary in the US Maybe in the US. Not on this side of the pond. Here we had some on-deaths-door Roman Catholicism - which can hardly be described as Christian theology. Not sure what Larni was exposed to though
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
schraf writes: Me too (has the finesse of a bloke)....which is why I get along so well with the blokes. Nah...I think it's because your very pretty. Now that your photo is on open forum you'll never know one way or the other. Guys are suckers for pretty girls. Edited by iano, : add 'very' so as to prevent accusations of semantics and weaving and ducking and diving and...
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
a-dul'-ter-i: In Scripture designates sexual intercourse of a man, whether married or unmarried, with a married woman. Besides, I am myself betrothed to another. Namely Christ.
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Oh, SHE was married. Did this dream-woman correspond to someone real? Nope. Although the precise setting isn't clear (some kind of dinner party I vaguely recall) I was aware she was married.
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Yeah, either way there is something to think about. But since there is no sure way to know one way or the other (is a 'conscious' decision made in a dream a 'conscious' decision?) I gave sin the benefit of the doubt and repented of 'it'.
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