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purpledawn
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Message 111 of 177 (325211)
06-23-2006 7:19 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by iano
06-23-2006 6:50 AM


Virtual Adultery
According to the Bible Encyclopeaedia and Scriptural Dictionary of 1902, in Biblical times, adultery was the act whereby any married man was exposed to the risk of having a spurious offspring imposed upon him. An adulterer was, therefore, any man who had illicit intercourse with a married or betrothed woman; and and adulteress was a betrothed or married woman who had intercouse with any other man than her husband.
Personally, I would say no you have not committed a sin, but the fact that you feel that if the circumstances were real that you would follow though brings to your attention that you have a weakness you need to address. In your venacular, this is God showing you your weakness. That's how we refine ourselves. As our weaknesses are brought into the light, recognize them and adjust accordingly.

"Peshat is what I say and derash is what you say." --Nehama Leibowitz

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purpledawn
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Message 130 of 177 (325327)
06-23-2006 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by iano
06-23-2006 7:26 AM


Re: Virtual Adultery
But to repent means to consciously change your mind or actions and stop doing whatever you were doing. You can't control your dreams when in a deep sleep, can you? I can't. How can you repent from something you have no control over. I can see asking for forgiveness and asking for understanding of the message, but I don't feel a decision made in a dream is a "conscious" decision.

"Peshat is what I say and derash is what you say." --Nehama Leibowitz

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purpledawn
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Posts: 4453
From: Indiana
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Message 132 of 177 (325363)
06-23-2006 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 131 by iano
06-23-2006 12:47 PM


Re: Virtual Adultery
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So I quit putting myself in situations where sleeping around can occur. "Don't go out where there are pretty woman and have a skinful of beer"
So now you know not to put yourself into the situation that may result as your dream did.
That's pretty much what I'm saying concerning being shown your weakness. You don't try to use willpower if the situation occurs, but you avoid (as you have done with your other weakness) putting yourself in the situations that could have the same result as your dream.
Don't open the door to temptation. Now that you have an idea of what is a temptation to you, you can close the door.

"Peshat is what I say and derash is what you say." --Nehama Leibowitz

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