Christianity Is Broken, but Can Be Fixed

If the promise is the path to heaven then I disagree that it is a failure. I believe that I will go to heaven and it is one of the results of my Catholic upbringing.I think that when a group of people is well defined, they become easy to disguise yourself as. Take a televangelist, for example, it seems pretty easy to act like a christian and make a lot of money off people and not even have to be christian in the first place.I think the image of a broken christianity comes from the fakes, not from the true christians (whatever that it) actually being failures. It seems that if I disagree with #1 then I need not reply to #2. I think that "the way it ought to be” is too idealistic, I mean, it is unrealistic.

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The promise of the faith is that it could unite its adherents into one body, with a mutual love, caring for one another above themselves, sharing in all things, and who are giving, kind, and non-vengeful to those around them.

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I think that is fine for a small community but for the world as a whole it wouldn’t work.
What about people who don’t want to unite with you?What about people who want to take advantage of your community? Like the televangelists again, if you try to live by something that is too idealistic, then you opening yourself up. You could just turn the other cheek but then you could possibly be getting your ass kicked all day. Someday, your gonna have to defend yourself.With your definition of the promise of faith, I think christianity has failed. Not because of some inherent flaw in the system, but because the promise, as you’ve defined, is the flaw. Its an unreachable goal. Its an ideal that cannot work in reality.This message has been edited by Catholic Scientist, 11-15-2005 05:35 PM

I wouldn't say that your idea of "the way it ought to be" would result in a return to The Dark Ages but I do think it would result in darker ages. I mean, a little community living in harmony is a hindrance to technological advancement and, IMO, "the way it ought to be" is ahead of us, not behind us.Make sense?

I second that. And right next to the arrogance is the condescension. I knew a lot of hippies in college and some of them lived in communes. They were very arrogant and condescending in their views, but as TL says: so, it turns that a lot of them were good friends of mine and we got along great, even though I disagreed with a lot of their beliefs. In RL I bet I could be friends with TL, but this thread is making him look like a jerk.