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coffee_addict
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Message 65 of 226 (259882)
11-15-2005 7:19 AM
Reply to: Message 64 by Mammuthus
11-15-2005 6:44 AM


Re: I think it's essential that Christianity be covered in secular schools...
Mammuthus writes:
I should have clarified what I meant by ethics. I had a college course which was more philosophy and ethics where all sorts of really complex dilemas were presented to the students and we had to logically justify our positions or defend a position we disagreed with etc
This reminds me of a philo of ethics class I took a couple years ago. On the first day of class, the prof gave us all a handout that presented the first ethical dilemma in the class. It reads something like the following:
You walk in the park and suddenly god appears in a thunderous light and a thunderous voice tells you that New York has become a sinful city and you must go on a shooting spree to kill as many as you can you are stopped by the sinners. What do you do?
After people started discussing with each other (our prof usually just let us debate it out on our own)groups began to form. Ultimately, there were two main groups.
Group 1: Yes, you should do it because god is all knowing so he knows what's best for you and you should never question him.
Group 2: You should proceed to seek out a professional for a psych evaluation.
Um... I was in group 2 by the way.
Ok, my point in all of this. Before then, I had no idea that people could have faith in something so much that they never stop to question their own sanity. What surprised me the most was that the people in the group that was seriously trying to argue that you should always "trust" god without question (yes, it very quickly broke into a religous debate) even if you have to commit mass murder or even genocide looked like your average college students. Scary, isn't it?

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coffee_addict
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Message 66 of 226 (259883)
11-15-2005 7:27 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by randman
11-15-2005 2:06 AM


Re: I think it's essential that Christianity be covered in secular schools...
Hey dude, reread what jar said. I read it through once and I was able to see where you've misrepresented him.

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Message 67 of 226 (259884)
11-15-2005 7:34 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by randman
11-15-2005 2:49 AM


Re: I think it's essential that Christianity be covered in secular schools...
randman writes:
Stalin killed somewhere between 60-110 million people.
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/rs.html
According to that government website, the current population of Russia is 143,420,309 (July 2005 est.).
Stalin killed between 60-110 million people?

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coffee_addict
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Message 106 of 226 (260037)
11-15-2005 7:54 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by randman
11-15-2005 12:03 PM


Re: I think it's essential that Christianity be covered in secular schools...
randman writes:
ep, which is why their current population is not higher
And you don't see the obvious flaw in your logic?

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