This thread was actually asking an important question. Seems we've skirted around it basically from the start, apparently showing more interest in talking about side-issues and side-issues of side-issues.
I'll repeat something that jar reminded me of recently. This is a board focused on the discussion of creation vs. evolution. It's a helpful thought, in trying to focus discussion on the issues. My advice is to keep that thought in mind when posting to threads related to the "great debate" (such as this on was supposed to be).
Time to shut this down. Feel free to open topics related to the side-issues' side-issues.