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Author Topic:   Need some serious Help, is Love Real?
dsv
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Message 4 of 15 (239967)
09-02-2005 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Wolf
09-02-2005 1:22 PM


She wants to know if scientists are able to prove it.
Yes, "love" is a neurologically observable experience. Most experiments include a preliminary interview about the people they love and obtaining images of their spouses, girlfriends, crushes, etc.
These images are shown to the subjects in a controlled environment along with images of other people they know and measuring their brain activity. There are also differences in the patterns of "love" for, for example, a mother as opposed to a girlfriend.
I hope this helps your question.

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dsv
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Message 8 of 15 (239987)
09-02-2005 2:07 PM
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09-02-2005 1:48 PM


Wolf,
Rahvin gives some good information. Also check out works by Dr. Andrew Newberg, a neuroscientist that has specifically studied love and other emotions.

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dsv
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Message 12 of 15 (240031)
09-02-2005 3:52 PM
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09-02-2005 2:34 PM


Re: I suspect...
Based on this evidence that one could claim science proves God is real because neuroligical pathways are stimulated during religious experience.
No, science has not proven Love is real and cannot prove it. Maybe they can claim to prove that a possible fantasy called love is real.
I see where you might draw this conclusion but it's a little misleading.
God isn't the emotion. The idea is that God "speaks" (or otherwise interacts) with the subject and therefore the individual feels love, happiness, satisfaction, et cetera. That is the actual neurological activity, not the God itself.
Just as if one sees a ghost their brain activity would most likely reflect a reaction but this does not in any way prove the existence of the ghost.
Edit: Oops, should have read the post above. Anyway, I'm of basically the same opinion.
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dsv
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Message 14 of 15 (240069)
09-02-2005 7:10 PM
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09-02-2005 6:31 PM


Re: I don't get it
Farva (Ben):
This actually deals with my area of study. Not to say that means anything I say makes any sense at all but I will attempt to shed some light on your questions.
What is "love" here?
Well, technically "love" isn't really anything. What happens, both physically and mentally, when we love greatly depends on the society in which we live. However, we can measure the neurological response to the feeling associated with the situations in which "love" is commonly used to describe. Affection, commitment, intimacy, passion, et cetera.
"Love" is just a term that describes a feeling and the resulting behavior.
Everybody here is answering your question about "love" the EMOTION. I don't think your wife is asking about that at all. She's asking about love the FEELING.
It's all the same actually. At the primitive level we're talking about reproduction and biologically implanted family bonds, just like hunger. Most of the behavior associated behavior of love has nothing to do with neuroscience and everything to do with culture. Certainly love is expressed differently around the world.
So back to the beginning, what we measure is the reaction of the brain in "love" situations. This proves that this activity is happening and that the subject does have an observable and verifiably different reaction to people he/she loves to those he/she does not.
I would consider this to be proof for the original poster's wife.

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