Let's talk about food

Schraf,I would have agreed with you until I recently read this book. You can read some interviews with Campbell on the internet, but the guy seems to have a very deep and respected background in nutrition. He was raised in Wisconsin on a dairy farm but as his research continued he has moved to eating a vegan diet. I'm giving it a try myself. If I can't entirely sustain it I still plan to have animal protein and products play a very minimal role in my diet. The cons of animal foods include greatly increased incidence of heart disease, cancer, and diabetes. It really is worth checking this out as in America our diet of affluence heavy in animal and refined foods is resulting in high rates of these diseases.Title: The China study : the most comprehensive study of nutrition ever conducted and the startling implications for diet, weight loss and long-term health / T. Colin Campbell with Thomas M. Campbell II. BookAuthor: Campbell, T. Colin, 1934-
Publisher, Date: Dallas, Tex. : BenBella Books, 2005. - Edition 1st BenBella Books ed.
ISBN: 1932100385 - Description: xviii, 417 p. : ill., 1 map ; 24 cm.to your good health,
lfen

i have heard of the French paradox and I personally find the Mediterranean diet very appealing and it may be the one I end up able to sustain.I am fairly new to nutrition and had to return the The China Study as another library patron reserved it, so I can't check what Campbell says or if he says how the rural Chinese diet compares to the French diet. I was impressed with Campbell's depth of study but I now have to wait a while before it will be my turn with the book again.Would you agree that most meats that Americans eat have a strong con due to hormones, chemicals, and bad fat ratios resulting from the feeding of the animals?lfen

It's a good idea but unfortunately what I love are big malted highly hopped craft ales dark and yummy in the glass. Reading that ales have a lot more residual carbohydrates than wine probably accounts for their appealing so to my sweet tooth. Wine is okay but sadly, I personally just don't find it as appetizing as ale.lfen

The Sas has changed from pink to aquatic, hrrrmm?I read this book recently. I'd be interested in what folks think. It seems the best study of nutrition to date and it does implicate all animal food in what Campbell calls the diseases of afluence:heart disease, cancer, diabetes, etc. Campbell seems to know how to do good science but I don't know what the peer review of this is. It's a book written for the lay public.
I'd love to hear what you or anyone else thinks.lfen

Campbell's conclusions from his nutritional studies, especially the ongoing China study, have led him and his family to become vegan. If I recall correctly the Okinawans eat a very large amount of soy. I presently eat little meat but I do have an occasionaly tin of sardines or smoked herring. I've read these fish feed low on the feed chain and are often young so have accumulated fewer toxins. I do also give in to the occasional slice of pizza with pepperoni. I just can't go pizza free. I am working on eating more lettuce and greens which are not that appetizing to me.Having visited in nursing homes I am very threatened by the ability of our health care system to prolong the suffering of ill health in old age. And there is nothing about that I want for myself or would wish for anyone else for that matter.lfen

I resemble that remark. That's why I eat extremely high cocoa content organic chocolate!lfen

I recall eating this incredible meal at a Mandarin Chinese restaurant. One course was a good sized whole fish that had been coated in peppers and baked whole, head, tail, fins at all. I had a napkin in my left hand to wipe away the tears flowing from my eyes as my right kept reaching for more chunks of this fiery hot but oh so delicious fish. Now that was an extremely tasty experience.Taste is such a personal thing. I used to love wild trout, but now that so much trout is hatchery raised I find it bland and boring. I love salmon or halibut. I don't love sardines but I've been eating them a bit this year for the omega 3 oils.After reading Campbell's book The China Study I'm attempting to become vegan with exceptions like chocolate chip cookies that have butter and eggs and the occasional slice of pizza. What I have is a sweet tooth and what I like are desserts and baked things plus chips. But tastes do change. I found after giving up chips for a while that when I tried them again they weren't as good as I remembered them tasting.I recall some tv program years ago about Siberia. There was this old guy missing teeth who mostly ate frozen fish. He caught the fish himself and they pretty much froze up as soon as they were pulled from the water. He was demonstrating the eating of frozen fish and just before he ate it he said something in Russian like, " and the most important thing about eating the frozen fish ..." and reaching into a cupboard with a big grin he pulled out a bottle, " is the Wodka!"You are probably forgetting the Wodka.lfen

Chocolate is my drug of choice! Relatively inexpensive, widely available it smells good, tastes wonderful, and makes me feel great, plus cocoa is extremely high in antioxidants!lfen

Thanks. I've been taking a good multivitamin for years so I'm pretty good with that. Being a guy and given my diet for years I suspect I'm more at risk at this point for too much iron but that could change.I don't feel I need a total vegan but I really want to up my vegetable intake and severly restrict animal foods, and if I make it all the way to vegan so much the better. All the vegetables I really like turn out to be fruits anyway! Like avocado, tomatoes,olives etc.lfen

Well, the interpretation of the dated is being contested. We have the claims of the director of the project being dismissed as not being supported by the data he claims to be basing it on.I don't know where to go from here. Sas might. I don't know why Campbell would claim his data says something different. The Westonprice people only summarize the data. This is some sort of statistic thing that I don't have the know how to sort out.I will note that Campbell offers a lot more data in his book than this website offers in its summary.lfen

Yes, but will they be allowed into heaven? Isn't pork forbidden?
Human nuitrition data is so very difficult to analyze. That does seem a huge amount of protein and fat. I wonder what the major causes of death are in Okinawa?lfen