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sidelined
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Message 1 of 263 (194421)
03-25-2005 11:19 AM


This is a chllenge to those members and viewers that say a biblical flood actually happened. I would like these people to list just what is meant by fountains of the deep and windows of heaven.
Gen 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
Once we establish a foundation of the meaning of this verse to be agreed upon by those believers who wish to participate then we will examine the consequences of those assumptions and see if we can predict how the result of such an event must be evidenced on Earth. In other words the people who make the claim that this flood occured will have to put their model to the test against the actual findings from the physical sciences.
I wish to allow believers the chance to present their case and to apply scientific criteria to see if they can accurately descibe these consequences in the real world,which after all is the only way to test such things.
This would be best in miscellaneous since we will not be merely confining ourselves to geological science as pertains to the flood.
This message has been edited by sidelined, Fri, 2005-03-25 09:20 AM
This message has been edited by sidelined, Wed, 2005-03-30 06:45 PM

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Message 3 of 263 (195561)
03-30-2005 8:47 PM
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AdminSylas
Sorry to take so long in answering but my DSL line was down till they could install in my new apartment. I hope the new title will work.

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Message 4 of 263 (198896)
04-13-2005 8:12 AM
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03-30-2005 8:47 PM


I will bump this topic to see if I can get the ball rolling on it now that I have returned.Up and at 'em admins!

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sidelined
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Message 24 of 263 (199124)
04-14-2005 12:54 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by NosyNed
04-13-2005 11:08 PM


Re: At least partially wrong.
I am not sure if I recall corectly or not. but the earth attracts the moon and the moon attracts the earth. The forces balance at a point within the Earth but not at its center,thus the Eath and moon revolve around this common point.The water closer to the moon is imbalanced and flows towards it while the water on the other side is also imbalanced and flows away from it.since water also has properties of a fluid these motions are altered by elevation changes of the seafloor.I will try to track down the source of the info{Six Easy Pieces}.
Anyway I will try to get the flood sources nailed down and get to work on some criticisms.

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sidelined
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Message 26 of 263 (199126)
04-14-2005 1:09 AM
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04-13-2005 11:42 PM


Re: Scoffers, water, and WORD
Phatboy
Well we have gotten little accomplished in the way of determining the source of the flood waters around which the story of Noah,which is staunchly defended around here by several posters, is without basis in fact.
The question? Is the wisdom contained within an accurate prognosis on the behavior of humanity. If humanity can be shown to be influenced by forces outside of our bodies, a postulate could be made that outside forces can also influence other events in nature.
I fail to see what the behavior of humanity has to do with the flood waters physical location and subsequent physical action upon the planet itself.Also I would ask how you postulate the existence of something that that influences events in nature without itself implementing record of that change.
Where are all the people who argued vehemently to the veracity of the story of Noah?

And since you know you cannot see yourself,
so well as by reflection, I, your glass,
will modestly discover to yourself,
that of yourself which you yet know not of

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Message 30 of 263 (199496)
04-14-2005 11:41 PM


There must be some difficulty here since I have not had a bite from even one biblical literalist concerning the OP. Is it possible that we have no one willing to back up the flood as a real event or do they have nothing to say?

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Message 41 of 263 (199849)
04-17-2005 7:58 AM
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04-15-2005 12:21 AM


Arachnophilia
i'm a biblical literalist. i think the bible means exactly what it says
Yes I agree that you did explain it in the context of the view that ancient people took in that region as being an explanation of the events. I am,however,wishing to deal with those folk who claim the position that the description of these people about the events actually occured in the way that they described.
A flood that covered the highest points of the globe cannot have occured due to the fact that such a volume of water does not exist in nature.There are people on this board who have claimed otherwise and my arguement pertains to them.
Thank Arach.

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