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The lies behind the Miller experiment

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Minnemooseus
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Message 110 of 226 (160515)
11-17-2004 11:51 AM 		Reply to: Message 104 by mb109
11-16-2004 9:52 PM

On validity
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6. the experiments results are invalid, because at the time the composition of the earth atmosphere was thought to be different then it is today.
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The experiments results are the experiments results.
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If it is looked at in the context of "Let's set up these conditions, and see what happens", then the results are absolutely valid.
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The claim that those conditions were those of early Earth is what has been shown to be invalid.
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Moose
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11-22-2004 2:23 PM 		Reply to: Message 175 by JESUS freak
11-22-2004 1:54 PM

Life originated somehow
THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION DOES NOT CARE HOW LIFE ORIGINATED.
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We can grant that God was behind the origin of life. His methodology may or may not have had anything to do with what was discover in the Miller/Urey experiment, or any subsequent simular experiments.
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TWO SEPERATE STEPS:
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1) Life somehow originated.
2) Life somehow evolved.
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The fact and theory of the second does not depend on the hows of the first.
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That is why the hypothesies/theories of lifes origins are a seperate issue relative to the hypothesies/theories of evolution.
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So whether the Miller/Urey experiment was valid or not is a moot point, in the context of the theory of evolution. The theory of evolution does not care.
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Moose
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