the forgery of deuteronomy

we do so very much live by the OT.When Jesus taught from the scriptures in the temple, which one's do you think he used?When Jesus said if you love me, keep my commandments -- do you think he meant the ten found in Exodus?Which part of the OT does not apply to us any longer?There is a basic plan throughout all of scripture, from Alpha to Omega, and that is the plan of salvation, which some followed and some did not. All of the Bible is examples of either one or the other.

First chance I get, I'll steal all your money.I'm an Isrealite, a Jew is not someone outwardly, but Israelite/Jew is something inwardly.How interesting that you would think no gentile obeyed God's law. There are too many to name, let's try Ruth, one of Christ's ancestors - let's try Caleb, one of Joshua's helpers, let's try all the non-Jews who followed Moses out of Egypt.The ten commandments are the only indication you have of God's character - if you love me, Jesus said, keep my commandments. He came to fulfill it, not to destroy it, not to make it void. The ten have as much sway over you as they have over all creation at all times. It is they that point out sin, without the law, there is no sin, and that also in the secular world.

Israelite and Jew are the same, it is a state of mind.
Jew is also a nationality as in Israeli.As for Christ fulfilling the law, it simply means he ratified it. Many people believe it was 'done away' with. Isn't that convenient? And so preciously quaint.Not one jot or tittle shall pass from it, for as long as time shall be.

There is only one kind of Israelite, the kind that is one inwardly, it is a state of mind, not a state of state.
If we are Christ's, we are Abraham's seed, and grafted onto the tree by virtue of ..... the Bible says so.
Am I Jewish and did I journey? I'll let it pass, you look young.

Someone from Israel is an Israeli, ask any Israeli about the difference between Israelite and Israeli. They are not even slightly compatible, because an Israeli is rarely an Israelite.
Thank you for your thoughts.

I find nothing dated in the scriptures. The difference between the meaning of Iraeli vs. Israelite is as timeless as the God who created it.
Thank you again for your thoughts.

If you are Christ's, you are Abraham's seed and an Israelite and son of Jacob.
The people who led the country didn't have a clue as to what they were supposed to do as the chosen nation. They were an utter failure.I really appreciate your time and the effort you give to share your knowledge. It is distasteful to me to engage in circular discussions. Meaning, going round and round and achieving nothing except getting dizzy. Please understand, I am not dismissing what you know to be truth for you, it just does not co-incite with a few decades of intensive study and still going on.
Take good care, hope to see you again here.
George

Good news, I don't think Christ cares too deeply about what the 'chosen people' appreciate and what not.
The chosen people were chosen to take Jehovah God to all the nations of the world. That did not coincide with their plans.
In Abraham all the nations of the world are blessed.
Christ is the blessed hope for all those who come to him, ALL who come to him. And he is not for those who don't, pretty much meaning most Jews.An afterthought, I hope that helps. Of course, you may choose not to take it literally, which is fine with me. Being selective is a good thing.Read Rom. 11:16-2216, For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches.
17, And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree,
18, do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you.
19, You will say then, "Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in."
20, Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear.
21, For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either.
22, Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.This message has been edited by PecosGeorge, 11-11-2004 08:15 AM

I'm not your buddy.
Now that you have stretched what I said to the point of where the elastic is useless, shall we say you've had your fun stretching it? End of circular discussion.