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Author Topic:   Evolution is NOT science: A challenge
jar
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Message 540 of 591 (136522)
08-24-2004 10:44 AM
Reply to: Message 535 by riVeRraT
08-24-2004 8:50 AM


Faith healing
Also people do go to healing places to be healed. Sometimes it works, and its all based on the person and his/her relationship with God.
Don't even start down this path unless you want a severe whomping.
Many years ago, back in the late 50's when I was a volunteer fireman and ambulance attendant, I was among the first responders on a call for two kids that had been electrocuted. The elder of the boys, about eight, had touched a faulty sump pump and been shocked. His younger brother, about six, tried to pull him away and also got electrocuted.
When I arrived I used one of the pike poles from the truck to pull the two kids off the pump and began giving the younger mouth to mouth resuscitation and attempting to restart his heart as others from the department began working on the elder boy.
The oldest kid at the house, his sister I believe but it could have been a baby sitter had called us first and then the parents. I had gotten the kid's heart started when the parents arrived. They told us to stop and made us leave the kids alone while they prayed for them. IIRC, the family was Christain Scientists.
Both kids died.
I am completely convinced I could have saved the boy I was working on and so was the crew working on the other boy.
Now there is no way that GOD could have wanted those two kids to die.
Prayer is fine but don't even begin talking about Prayer versus medical care.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 546 of 591 (136680)
08-25-2004 12:15 AM
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08-25-2004 12:09 AM


Back towards the topic.
Is Evolution Science?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 575 of 591 (137017)
08-26-2004 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 574 by riVeRraT
08-26-2004 11:41 AM


Re: In comes the cavalry
In case you haven't noticed, the topic discusses evolution as a religion, not "what scientists think of evolution"
And so far you have not shown Evolution or the TOE to have any of the characteristics of a religion.
So, what religious characteristics does the TOE have?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 585 of 591 (137215)
08-26-2004 9:35 PM
Reply to: Message 580 by riVeRraT
08-26-2004 12:19 PM


Still trying to get to the topic.
*blink* (insert your favorite rhain expression here)
I believe I did already.
Well, it's taken awhile but I read through everyone of your posts in this thread and I cannot find a single place where you stated how the TOE is like a religion.
You keep saying some people treat it as though it is, which has nothing to do with the TOE, and that it could be used to replace GOD, which has nothing to do with the TOE, and other things that have nothing whatsoever to do with the question, but I could not find any place where you show the TOE has any of the characteristics of a religion.
If you have done so and I am mistaken (it happens), just relist the characteristics or the link to the message and we can head back towards the topic.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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